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Animism?

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Walpole, Dec 9, 2019.

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  1. Revmitchell

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    You need to look it up
     
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    Walpole, I, like others here, view the instances you cited as being substantive, supernatural yes, but substantive.
     
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    apparition (n.)
    "early 15c., 'supernatural appearance or manifestation,' from Anglo-French aparicion, Old French aparicion, aparoison (15c.), used in reference to the Epiphany (the revealing of the Christ child to the Wise Men), from Late Latin apparitionem (nominative apparitio) 'an appearance'"
     
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    Of course you didnt post the whole thing. Jesus was no ghost. He is very real.
     
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    This is the first time I have seen someone invoke the Glomar response with regards to explaining what St. Stephen and St. Paul witnessed.
     
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    I looked it up and even quoted St. Luke’s account of each of the occurrences in a prior post.

    If what they witnessed were not apparitions, what were they?
     
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    #27 Jerome, Dec 10, 2019
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    Let's talk animism.

    Animism in Christianity? Part 1: Folk Christianity
     
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    Wow!
     
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    What didn't I confirm or deny?
     
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    No, they were not adherents of Animism, absolutely. The difference is from heaven to hell. I explain.

    The biblical example you have quoted, they did see the Lord JESUS, the son of God. JESUS was alive, and is alive, for ever.

    In the other hand, in a culture where witch trials occur and animism is alive and well (1Samuel 28:v.11-15), have on mind the Roman Catholic Church nevertheless preaches a false and devilish Christianity through a disguised spiritism that is practised by the guides and their followers, invoking the dead or defuncts in their cults and prays.(1Samuel 28:v.11-15)

    It is impressive how Satan works in the religious system of the Roman Catholic Church, in a way that his spirit in his enchantment makes the Catholics only see the idol with the supposed image of the deceased or defunct materialized in stone, wood, metal, etc., made by the hands of the sons of Devil. Then, in this way, Catholics do not discern, they do not see, they do not realize the figure of Satan himself in the image of the defuncts which they are worshipping in their cults and prays (1Samuel 28:v.11-15), whose images by the way are also surrounded/ circled by spirits of demons.

    If you do not see the things as are revealed above, it is because you are blind guided by blind, and you are under the dominion of the spirit of the Devil, as such all idolaters.
     
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    What criteria does one use to discern if an apparition is genuine, like the one experienced by Sts. Stephen, Paul and John, versus a devilish disguised one made by the Satan via the Roman Catholic Church?
     
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    Stephen wasn't an apparition, Paul was not an apparition, John was not an apparition. And certainly, Jesus is not an apparition.
    You have been shown your error. You may keep arguing if you wish.
     
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    Another Puritan, Samuel Ward:

    Puritan Hard Drive • Samuel Ward • Sermon, "A Coal From The Altar, To Kindle The Holy Fire of Zeal"

    "Behold the Lord God, especially thy Lord Christ, in his glorious titles and majesty; for so he begins his visions to John, and his epistles to the churches, exciting their dull hearts. By such apparitions did he set on fire the heart of Moses in the burning bush, and inflamed Stephen, his first martyr. Answerable and proportionable to which are our serious contemplations."
     
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    Do you realize you are arguing for me? Each example is of the living God revealing himself to men.
    What we never see is Mary or any of the Roman Catholic declared saints showing up. The best you have done is the Transfiguration and there the only one to be honored is Jesus.
     
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    Non-sequitur. No one has argued Stephen, Paul or John were apparitions.

    Rather, what has been presented is their experiences with apparitions of Jesus and Mary.
     
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    Great series of posts!

    While these quotations contradict the objections of the posters here, the reality is their main objection to acknowledging apparitions is because apparitions are associated with Catholicism and hence they must be false.
     
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    There was never an apparition of Mary and Jesus is alive, not dead. You're really reaching for it with your assertions.
     
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    Please see the opening post in this thread. St. Luke describes St. Stephen and St. Paul's encounters with an apparition of Jesus. And yes, Jesus and Mary are both very much alive, along with the all the saints in heaven.

    St. John records his apparition of Mary in the 12th chapter of the Apocalypse.
     
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    This thread is about Animism. So far you have avoided it like the plague.
     
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