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J. Macarthur on John 3:16

Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Reynolds, Sep 24, 2020.

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  1. Yeshua1

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    He is one of the greatest Baptists ever, and well known for being a soul winner and for his "Calvinism is the Gospel"
     
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    Who is "a Calvin"?
     
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    So the answer to this question...Can you describe one of the ideas that makes his teaching profound to you?...is...no...you cannot describe one idea from John MacArthur regarding your OP. Got it.
     
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    How do we know? You have never posted what John MacArthur actually said.
     
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    A Calvinist can still be a soul-winner, because, thank God Almighty, some of them will yield to the goading of the Holy Ghost within them to overcome their intellectual folly and witness anyway. Every witnessing Calvinist denies his Calvinism in practice. Thank God.
     
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    or that they really agree that God will move in a sovereign way when Gospel is taught/preached to save out his own!
     
  7. Reynolds

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    The point of the O.P. is his doctrinal disagreements with our resident Calvinists. Why mist something be profound?
     
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    Listen for yourself. Its his current series.
     
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    I do not have to call him,I speak to him face to face.
    We agree on the doctrines of grace 100%, so your statement is a falsehood.
    RM was who I told to phone him.
    Now... Reformed asked you to explain what is mainstream Calvinism.
    We are waiting for you to clarify what you mean by that. Take your time, post links, verses ,sermons.
    Let's see what you have to offer Reynolds.
    Let RM. Speak for himself.
     
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    Sigh you need to go back and read the conversation that had nothing to do with you. You have gotten nothing right.
     
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    Listen for yourself. Its his current series.
    Who is R.M.? Do you mean John Macarthur?
    I will get into the specifics butr first lets go to an easy one. You call Double Predestination all kinds of nasty names. Unless you have changed, you definitely disagree with it. You and J.M. agree 100% on doctrines of grace?
    Double-Predestination Biblical
     
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    MacArthur is intriguing. He will at times sound almost Arminian, but will quickly sound Calvinsit the next day. He will affirm the TULIP, however. He just explains it in a more nuanced way, and seems to accept there are tensions in Scripture that no one can perfectly understand.

    If it's an old series, I believe I heard that one. It's multipart, and you'll see what I mean. Unless it's a new one.
     
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    Yes........ and no.
     
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    John Calvin on John 3:16

    "That whosoever believeth on him may not perish. It is a remarkable commendation of faith, that it frees us from everlasting destruction. For he intended expressly to state that, though we appear to have been born to death, undoubted deliverance is offered to us by the faith of Christ; and, therefore, that we ought not to fear death, which otherwise hangs over us. And he has employed the universal term whosoever, both to invite all indiscriminately to partake of life, and to cut off every excuse from unbelievers. Such is also the import of the term World, which he formerly used; for though nothing will be found inthe world that is worthy of the favor of God, yet he shows himself to be reconciled to the whole world, when he invites all men without exception to the faith of Christ, which is nothing else than an entrance into life."

    John MacArthur might be a "Calvinist". But John Calvin was most certainly NOT!!!
     
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    It is an old series, but its the one currently running.
     
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    J.M. pretty much says the same in this series.
     
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    There is no REQUIREMENT for anything to be profound, you just commented that something was ...

    ... so he was asking what you found "profound". Other than saying MacArthur teaches different than the Calvinists on BB, you really have not given any indication how, so it was not a completely unreasonable question.
     
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    RevMitchell (capitalization added to clarify abbreviation)
     
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    I just find the general handling of terms and definitions different.
     
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    As long as we are dropping names, I never even saw John MacArthur in person. ;)
    I did see Simon and Garfunkel live at their reunion concert in Central Park. :Cool
     
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