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13,000 Deaths, Nearly 600,000 Adverse Events Reported After COVID Vaccines, as Debate Heats Up Over

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  1. Revmitchell

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    The constant use of the word misinformation and the bashing of people with and because of opposing views only discredits their position and makes people even more suspicious.
     
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    How concerned are you about adverse events related to the vaccines?

    Please go to this site & scroll down to the second post by Wayne Sims, 3 days ago. It was very concerning & possibly having to do with basic flu shots for children. I will try to copy & add, but so far can only get a partial copy. If you have children or grandchildren it’s a mandatory read, imo. Thanks.
     
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    The CDC has notified all U.S. Hospitals that between August and November 2021, they can expect all Dr's and all hospitals around the country to expect a Polio-like outbreak of disease among children, the average age of 5. Children are going to be presenting Paralysis of the extremities and face. The CDC has informed hospitals when encountering these presentations of AFM (Acute Flaccid Myelitis) this is what it looks like, be prepared when they walk in and make sure you diagnose it this way. The CDC says No Cure and to begin early physical therapy to try and restore normal nerve function.

    On CDC's website, (AFM Cases and Outbreaks) AFM recording started in 2014 However also on the CDC's website, AFP (Acute Flaccid Paralysis) is recorded to have occurred in 2001 from Polio derived vaccines in the Philippines in children. (CDC Media Relations: MMWR News Synopsis for October 12, 2001)


    So they have known about this since 2001, NOT 2014. Every year there's only 1 shot, the CDC recommends and pushes on the populous from Aug until the last week of Oct. Hint: The Flu Shot.


    AFM (could it really be Guillain-Barre syndrome) instead.
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    Worked this time. Thanks.
     
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    It did. 6 cases of a rare but severe blood issue was reported with the JJ vaccine and it was temporarily suspended. The issue was not the numbers but that the effect was not discovered in the trials (which makes since given the limit of trials compared to public vaccination).

    Had other vaccines had the same issue they would have been pulled as well. But as long as the vaccine remains within bounds (in terms of adverse effects) I do not think they will be pulled.
     
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    Yes. They have been issuing this warning every couple of years (it tends to spike every two years and if not on the radar could be missed as it is not easy to detect unless specifically considering the disease.

    Of course, it has absolutely nothing to do with covid or tge vaccine. It is the CDC doing its job (following trends) - they issued this warning in 2018 as well.
     
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    Exactly what the poster said, Jon. What he also said was there is only one vaccine being administered at that time. The flu shot. He also said his kids will not be getting it.
     
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    I don't get your point. They were administering the measles vacvine during that time (and the Chickenpox vaccine).

    My son had to get his shots updated for school in 2018, so I know the claim is false.
     
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    Apart from the fact, obvious to anyone with a high school degree, that correlation does not imply causation, some of the reports in VAERS are clearly not originating from trained medical professionals. To wit, here is an actual entry from someone who made a report:

    "About 5 hrs after receiving vaccine muscle ache in shoulder. Penis reduced in size, length, and circumference is significant since following day and pain in penal area from day 3 and day 5 most noticeable. Shape of penis has changed (noticed on day 4 due to an erection) and the skin has become loose with the size reduction (like baggy pants.)"

    ...and then there is this gem:

    "Explosive Diarhea and a touch of the AIDS"

    One simply cannot make this stuff up.
     
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    SWINE FLU PROGRAM IS HALTED IN 9 STATES AS 3 DIE AFTER SHOTS (Published 1976)
    Comparisons between deaths reported after swine flu and Covid-19 vaccines are misleading - Full Fact

    As I read these ( and many other articles ) and compare outbreaks of other viruses with SARS-COV2, I basically see that there are two overall positions related to deaths and adverse reactions experienced post-vaccination...

    1) There is indecision on the part of some about whether or not the deaths or severe adverse effects were a direct result of being vaccinated.
    That I can understand.

    2) There is a tendency for those who look to vaccines as a means of saving lives as to whether or not the deaths or adverse effects happened during a very concerning pandemic... in which every person's life was at stake or not.
    That I can also understand ( but not agree with ), as the medical profession's mission is to "Do No Harm".

    In other words, to me there is a definite pattern with regard to how deaths ( and adverse side effects ) post-vaccination are treated in the United States ( by certain entities as well as the general public ) and in most of the rest of the world, and it has become clearer to me after recent events:

    It seems that if a smaller number of people die ( or suffer bad effects ) after being vaccinated for a virus that is not life-threatening to most of the population,
    then more attention is payed to those incidents and more concern is shown to those that did die;
    But if an even greater number of people die ( or suffer adverse effects ) after being vaccinated for a virus that is life-threatening to most of the population,
    then less attention and concern is payed to those deaths...

    Most probably because the number of deaths outweighs the estimated number of lives being saved as a result of the vaccines.

    In other discussions ( such as during military conflicts or in cases of controlling violent civilian demonstrations and rioting ) this would be referred to as "collateral damage";
    and depending upon the scenario, it can be acceptable or not acceptable, especially in the eyes of those advocating the original action that was used to defeat an enemy or to control a situation.


    Of course I could be wrong, but it does appear that way to me.
     
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    Except this is not true.
     
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    That debacle lasted less than three months, Oct-Dec.
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    Tony Fauci and the Swine Flu Disaster; Betrayal of Trust
    by Jon Rappoport

    August 14, 2020

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    I take you back to the summer of 2009, when the CDC and the World Health Organization were hyping the “deadly H1N1 Swine Flu pandemic.”

    They were, of course, also urging people to take the new Swine Flu vaccine. On that subject, here is an excerpt from Robert Kennedy Jr.’s Children’s Health Defense (3/27/20):

    “For example, [Dr. Anthony] Fauci once shilled for the fast-tracked H1N1 influenza (‘swine flu’) vaccine on YouTube, reassuring viewers in 2009 that serious adverse events were ‘very, very, very rare.’ Shortly thereafter, the vaccine went on to wreak havoc in multiple countries, increasing miscarriage risks in pregnant women in the U.S., provoking a spike in adolescent narcolepsy in Scandinavia and causing febrile convulsions in one in every 110 vaccinated children in Australia—prompting the latter to suspend its influenza vaccination program in under-fives.”

    Thank you. Dr. Fauci. Explain to us why you haven’t been downgraded to pumping gas in Death Valley or sent to prison?

    However, that is only half the Swine Flu story. The other half—which involves an astounding hoax—was surely something Fauci was aware of at the time.

    Fauci was, in fact, recommending a highly dangerous vaccine for protection against AN EPIDEMIC THAT DIDN’T EXIST AT ALL.

    His friends and professional colleagues at the CDC were creating the hoax.

    Let me run it down for you.

    In the summer of 2009, the CDC was claiming there were thousands of Swine Flu cases in the US. But behind these statistics lay an unnerving secret. A major crime, considering the CDC’s mandate to report the truth to the American people:

    Secretly, the CDC had stopped counting cases of Swine Flu.

    What? Why?

    CBS investigative reporter, Sharyl Attkisson, discovered the CDC secret; and she found out why.

    The routine lab testing of tissue samples from the most likely Swine Flu patients was coming back, in the overwhelming percentage of cases, with: NO SIGN OF SWINE FLU OR ANY OTHER KIND OF FLU.

    Attkisson wrote an article about this scandal, and it was published on the CBS News website. However, the next, bigger step—putting out the story on CBS television news—was waylaid. No deal. And CBS shut down any future investigation on the subject. Attkisson’s article died on the vine. No other major news outlet in the world picked up her article and ran with it deeper into the rabbit hole.

    Here is what Attkisson told me when I interviewed her:

    Rappoport: In 2009, you spearheaded coverage of the so-called Swine Flu pandemic. You discovered that, in the summer of 2009, the Centers for Disease Control, ignoring their federal mandate, [secretly] stopped counting Swine Flu cases in America. Yet they continued to stir up fear about the “pandemic,” without having any real measure of its impact. Wasn’t that another investigation of yours that was shut down? Wasn’t there more to find out?

    Attkisson: The implications of the story were even worse than that. We discovered through our FOI efforts that before the CDC mysteriously stopped counting Swine Flu cases, they had learned that almost none of the cases they had counted as Swine Flu was, in fact, Swine Flu or any sort of flu at all! The interest in the story from one [CBS] executive was very enthusiastic. He said it was “the most original story” he’d seen on the whole Swine Flu epidemic. But others pushed to stop it [after it was published on the CBS News website] and, in the end, no [CBS television news] broadcast wanted to touch it. We aired numerous stories pumping up the idea of an epidemic, but not the one that would shed original, new light on all the hype. It was fair, accurate, legally approved and a heck of a story. With the CDC keeping the true Swine Flu stats secret, it meant that many in the public took and gave their children an experimental vaccine that may not have been necessary.

    —end of interview excerpt—

    So…fake pandemic, CDC crimes, and a damaging vaccine.

    But that wasn’t end of it. The CDC wanted to commit another crime. About three weeks after Attkisson’s findings were published on the CBS News website, the CDC, obviously in a panic, decided to double down. If one lie is exposed, tell an even bigger one. A much bigger one.

    Here, from a November 12, 2009, WebMD article is the CDC’s response: “Shockingly, 14 million to 34 million U.S. residents — the CDC’s best guess is 22 million — came down with H1N1 swine flu by Oct. 17 [2009].” (“22 million cases of Swine Flu in US,” by Daniel J. DeNoon).

    Are your eyeballs popping? They should be.

    Fast forward to 2020. Who in his right mind, armed with a little history, would believe anything the CDC is saying about COVID-19? The discovery of a new coronavirus. the case numbers, the accuracy of the diagnostic tests, the need for lockdowns and economic devastation, the safety and importance of a vaccine, the fear porn? Who would believe any of it?

    And who would believe anything coming out of the mouth of Dr. Anthony Fauci, who hyped a highly destructive Swine Flu vaccine for an epidemic that didn’t exist at all?

    Only a fool.

    SOURCES:

    childrenshealthdefense.org/news/dr-fauci-and-covid-19-priorities-therapeutics-now-or-vaccines-later/

    cdc.gov/media/transcripts/2009/t091009.htm

    cbsnews.com/news/swine-flu-cases-overestimated/

    webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/20091112/over-22-million-in-us-had-h1n1-swine-flu#1

    Jon Rappoport
     
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