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Hey, quit stealing my lines!!!

Apostles Doctrines: (not in order of importance, but in order of occurance in Scripture)

1. Hearing and then doing (Matt 7)
2. Living in obedience unto righteousness (Romans 6)
3. Avoid those who teach contrary doctrines (Romans 16)
4. Exercise yourself unto Godliness (1 Timothy 4)
5. Be an example in word, conversation, charity, spirit, faith, purity (ibid)
6. Members of the Body of Christ are your brothers and sisters (1 Timothy 5)
7. Scripture furnishes you with doctrine, reproof, correction and how to be righteous, so you can be perfected in Christ and live in obedience to Him (2 Timothy 3)
8. God will judge the living and the dead AT His Coming (2 Timothy 4)
9. Deny ungodliness and worldly lust, live sober, righteous, and godly in this life (Titus 2)
10. If you see a brother in sin, rebuke him (Galtians 6)
11. Walk in the Spirit so you will not sin. (Galatians 5)
12. We are children of God, and heirs to Abraham's promise, in Christ (Galatians 3)
13. No man is justified by the 'works' of the law (clip clip) (Galatians 2)
14. The household of God is built upon Christ and the Apostles and Prophets. (Ephesians 2)
15. There is ONE Body, Spirit, faith, Lord, baptism and ONE God (Ephesians 4)
16. Walk in love, as Christ did for us, by abstaining from all sin (Ephesians 5)
17. Live in obedience, working out your salvation with fear and trembling (Philippians 2)
18. Give everything to God in prayer, and think only on good things (Philippians 4)

That certainly isn't all of them, but I have to go take kids to school, so go over those, then tell me what YOU think the Apostles doctrines are.

God Bless </font>[/QUOTE]I want to say this before hand b/c alot of people dont understand what the Apostles Doctrine is. We are called Apostolics, which means "like the Apostles".

Don't worry guys we not leaving Christ out of this. The Apostles Doctrine are the things Christ taught the Apostles.

The Apostles Doctrine:

Doing what the Apostles did, teaching what they taught, live how they lived. Everything the Apostles did was a dirct of what Jesus told them to do.

Part of that Doctrine is Teaching Repentance and remission of Sins in Jesus Name among all Nations.

Do the SDA teach that? Do you guys teach repentance? I know you do!

But on the other hand do you guys hold the same monothesitc views the apostles held? And what I mean by that is: Has the SDA adopted a doctrine of a triune God that was never taught by the Apostles?

The Apostles believed in One God. They gave the Godhead no Seperation of Persons. If so we would have found it stated. We know they held to the fact that God was absolutly one b/c Jesus told them to Baptize in the NAME of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost. They Did that by Baptizing in the Name of Jesus Christ.

Acts 2:38 and many other verses let us know they Knew who the Son was.

So as far as the Apostles are concerned and their Doctrine they knew God was One.

Do you believe God was One has the Apostles believed and taught or do you hold to the beliefs and teachings of the Council of Nicea that God was one but three?

God bless

 

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Are you serious? I was baptized in the Name of Jesus. Are you happy now?

Did you not see the part about African churches being different?

You brave soul you.

Let me see if I can get those pics and just post them in here.

God Bless

 

Singer,

Do you know what a proselyte is?

I am one. You want to know why? Because the church I was in was FALSE.

Jesus told the Pharisees they were misleading and decieving people and making proselytes of people and that the outcome is that the 'converts' were more a child of hell than they were before they were converted.



Which is worse:

Someone who lives wickedly, lives to themselves, shows no remorese, has a good time, etc.

OR

Someone who ackoweldges Jesus with their lips and walks out the door and denys them by their lifestyle?

If you aren't going to teach the people you are trying to convert to ACTUALLY BE CONVERTED, then you are teaching them falsehoods, and making them more a child of hell than they were before.

It is MORE than just COMING.

You stopped at the first step. Stagnant.

When we get stagnant the water get's COLD.

Keep movin' to stay HOT. That moving isn't just teachin' people to 'say a little prayer' and they are good to go.

JESUS said the TEACH them the THINGS that I commanded YOU.

Do you do that?

The SDA church is doing EXACTLY what it is supposed to be doing.

God called out a Remnant from among HIS people to reach HIS people. We have a 3 fold purpose.

Expose error within the church.
Reach the lost for Christ.
Reach the saved that are in that error.

There is nothing wrong with me or any other SDA teaching a Baptist or a Catholic the truth from the Bible.

Mock if you must, you usually do, but I believe the bible is truth, and when I am teaching from the Bible, I am teaching truth.

God Bless

 

Brain,

I believe in One God. &lt;----- that's a period.

Who is it? Eph 4: 4. There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
5. One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6. One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

If you do things JUST like the Apostles did, why aren't you going to Church tomorrow? And resting when the Sun goes down today?

hmmmmm

Pick and choose huh?

Also, where does it say in the Bible WHAT the words were that the Apostles SAID when they dunked someone? I see THREE different ways demonstrated.

1. In the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins.
2. In the name of the Lord Jesus.
3. In the name of the Lord.

What did Jesus say to do?

"in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:"

Which is? Jehovah.

What is the name of the Lord Jesus? Why say that, if HIS NAME is Jesus? He said Himself that He CAME in HIS Father's NAME.

What is GOD'S name?

Jehovah

Jesus was the EXPRESS image of Jehovah.

God Bless

 

Good to hear from you hrhema. Why did you flee from the scene in the Azuza thread so quickly??

Do you know the meanings of these words: mediator, intercessor, advocate. Christ is our advocate (1John 2:1,2). Although these words are synonyms to some degree, lets consider this word "advocate" for a minute. An advocate is like a lawyer. Usually a lawyer will only take on the case of someone he believes to be innocent. Why defend or prove a guilty person to be innocent? Christ is our advocate. He does not play the devil's advocate (excuse the pun). He is not an advocate for the unsaved. He is an advocate for the believer and the believer only. 1John was written for the believer, to provide assurance to him concering his salvation. John writes to the believer:

2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
--"my little children"--the saved. "we" have an advocate with the father" John included himself. I am sure he was saved. Once he was saved he was always saved. He had eternal life. "He that has the Son has life; he that has not the Son has not life." It is cut and dry. Either you do or you don't. When I got saved the blood of Jesus Christ took my sin and washed it away. God remembers it no more. He cast it into the deepest sea. As far as the east is from the west so far has he removed my sin. I beleive the promises of God, and will not call God a liar. Will you?

There is therefore now no condemnation to them that are in Christ Jesus (Rom.8:1)
Jesus said: "I give unto them eternal life, and they shall never perish; my father which gaveth them me is greater than all, and no man shall pluck them out of my father's hand. I and my father are one. (John 10:28-30).

What is eternal life if it is not eternal? It is a lie from Jesus, a sin that you would accuse him of?? If Christ gave me eternal life (and he did), and it should be taken away or lost, then it would be no longer eternal but temporary, and Christ would be a liar. Are you willing to accuse him of this?
DHK

 

MEE,

No, I'm not upset, you will KNOW if I am upset! I am just sarcastic.

I was baptized by an SDA preacher in the name of Jesus.

He said "I baptize you, my Christian sister, in the name of the Father, His Son, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit, buried with Him in baptism, raised to walk in newness of life"

As far as the Africans go, what exactly is your point in this dispute? Cut to the chase, will ya? Have you never seen an unconverted person in church before? It happens sister! All the time. When people who are 'church goers' their whole lives finally SEE God, they are converted. They had a head knowledge but had never gotten it in their heart. I think I would even be safe to say that there are some people on this very board who have not been converted. They know allot, and have learned allot, but they don't know God. It is sad, but it happens.

Can't you just be happy that souls were saved and lives changed for Jesus, and the Kingdom of God?



God Bless

 

Except for you. That tells me something.

I am sorry but part of witnessing is TELLING people the things that God has commanded us to do. If you don't agree with that, you aren't a Bible believing Christian.

Preaching the Gospel is more than telling people about Revelation 22:17.

How do you do it? Do you have like truth blinders on or something. How can you read the verse in Revelation 22 and not see the others there? I just don't get you.

If you approached me in a bar what would you say to me?

God Bless

 

Singer,

Sad isn't it?

I disagree with what you had in bold.

I DO NOT see how it is what I am saying AT ALL.

You should sit down and read every post I have posted here in this thread, and notice if at ANY time I said WORKS saves you.

Not once.

For by GRACE are you saved THROUGH faith.
NOT of works, otherwise we could boast.
WE ARE HIS workmanship, CREATED in CHRIST, UNTO good works!

You read the first part. I read ALL of it.

It goes TOGETHER.

James ties it together beautifully.

Have you ever read James?

I am truly saddened that you dislike the Bible so much.

It is Life.

btw, SHUT UP SINGER That was so choice.

God Bless

 

Please check out this website. I think you will find it interesting. BibleAnswersForum.com

 

"Nowhere will you find that simply believing in Jesus will save you,
but rather we will gain eternal life through
perseverence in good works.

Do you see how you're saying the same thing ? (Salvation by works)."

Yes you did.

 

Numbers 35:31 Moreover ye shall take no satisfaction for the life of a murderer, which is guilty of death: but he shall be surely put to death.

Same word there 'murderer' is translated 'kill' in the Commandment.

It should read 'thou shalt not murder'.

Think about it.

Right after they got those commandments, God sent them an a rampage to take over the promise land.

Nice try though. I HAVE to pay my taxes. What they do with it, is something I don't have any control over. Give to Ceasar what is Ceasars, and to God what is God's.

God Bless