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  1. Baptizo
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    Can Predestination and Free Will Coexist?

    Lucifer was perfect and sinless up until that very moment. Either by his own will or God's will he puffed himself up to the point where he was...
    Post by: Baptizo, Apr 22, 2024 at 9:18 PM in forum: Calvinism & Arminianism Debate
  2. Silverhair
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    Can Predestination and Free Will Coexist?

    One can be proud of any number of things without them being sin but what Satan took pride in is what made his pride a sin. Pride leads to a fall...
    Post by: Silverhair, Apr 22, 2024 at 11:27 AM in forum: Calvinism & Arminianism Debate
  3. Alan Gross
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    Believed King James was most accurate, now unsure what to think

    The first reference to the morning star as an individual is in Isaiah 14:12: “How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn!...
    Post by: Alan Gross, Dec 16, 2023 in forum: Bible Versions & Translations
  4. 37818
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    Believed King James was most accurate, now unsure what to think

    The Latin Vulgate, Isaiah 14:12, quomodo cecidisti de caelo lucifer qui mane oriebaris corruisti in terram qui vulnerabas gentes
    Post by: 37818, Dec 16, 2023 in forum: Bible Versions & Translations
  5. Logos1560
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    Believed King James was most accurate, now unsure what to think

    In a note at Isaiah 14:12 in his reference Bible, Peter Ruckman acknowledged that Lucifer “is a translation of a Hebrew word meaning ‘the shining...
    Post by: Logos1560, Dec 16, 2023 in forum: Bible Versions & Translations
  6. Conan
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    Believed King James was most accurate, now unsure what to think

    Isaiah 14:12 & Revelation 22:16 the morning star - DESENMASCARANDO LAS FALSAS DOCTRINAS - Gabitos Isaiah 14:12–Lucifer | Unbound Scriptures by...
    Post by: Conan, Dec 16, 2023 in forum: Bible Versions & Translations
  7. JD731
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    Believed King James was most accurate, now unsure what to think

    What is the proper wording of this text? What is the prophet trying to tell us?
    Post by: JD731, Dec 15, 2023 in forum: Bible Versions & Translations
  8. Logos1560
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    Believed King James was most accurate, now unsure what to think

    You make a bogus, false accusation since you do not prove that any English Bible translation considers their rendering at Isaiah 14:12 to refer to...
    Post by: Logos1560, Dec 15, 2023 in forum: Bible Versions & Translations
  9. Alan Gross
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    Believed King James was most accurate, now unsure what to think

    I have Dr. Bob's Eleven Simple Rules memorized, thank you. When I said, "They just changed the 'bible' from that representing Christianity, to...
    Post by: Alan Gross, Dec 15, 2023 in forum: Bible Versions & Translations
  10. David Kent
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    Islam Surprise

    Revlation 8:6-13 6.1st trumpet 6. The seven angels prepared to sound their trumpets. 7. Hail mixed with blood. The judgment we look for here is...
    Post by: David Kent, Oct 21, 2023 in forum: Other Discussions
  11. Alan Gross
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    Genesis 12:18-19; The plagues were to stop Pharaoh from taking Sarah as his wife.

    Now, while the Interpretation of 'light-bearer', in Isaiah 14:12, is the King of Babylon, in context, the translators have gotten the word...
    Post by: Alan Gross, Apr 4, 2023 in forum: Bible Versions & Translations
  12. Alan Gross
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    Genesis 12:18-19; The plagues were to stop Pharaoh from taking Sarah as his wife.

    So, in keeping with not talking about modern versions, just the influence behind them: In the sense of "give light" or "shine", from the...
    Post by: Alan Gross, Apr 4, 2023 in forum: Bible Versions & Translations
  13. Alan Gross
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    Genesis 12:18-19; The plagues were to stop Pharaoh from taking Sarah as his wife.

    Yeah, what happened? What are you asking or talking about? šā·ḥar; שָׁ֑חַר, of the morning, N‑ms 1) shining one, morning star, Lucifer hê·lêl,...
    Post by: Alan Gross, Apr 4, 2023 in forum: Bible Versions & Translations
  14. JonC
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    Genesis 12:18-19; The plagues were to stop Pharaoh from taking Sarah as his wife.

    Talking of 'jot and tittle' , @Alan Gross , what happened with the KJV translators in Isaiah 14:12 when they translated "day star" or "morning...
    Post by: JonC, Apr 3, 2023 in forum: Bible Versions & Translations
  15. ChrisTheSaved
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    Free-will, Lucifer and God

    Although I said it was not a mistranslation on Jerome's part, I was write in saying that but he could have used a better Latin word then Venus....
    Post by: ChrisTheSaved, Feb 5, 2017 in forum: Calvinism & Arminianism Debate
  16. TCassidy
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    Decretive/Permissive Will Or Both?

    I agree. However, common usage of "Lucifer" is a reference to the pre-fallen Satan, so, when understood in that context, no violence is done to...
    Post by: TCassidy, Jun 26, 2016 in forum: Baptist Theology & Bible Study
  17. Darrell C
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    conditional immortality

    I can answer that...no Baptist can embrace annihilation, and when he does, he should have the integrity to remove himself from the Baptist group...
    Post by: Darrell C, Jun 7, 2016 in forum: Baptist Theology & Bible Study
  18. dcorbett
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    Which Bible versions are NOT the Word of God?

    If any are that flawed they cannot be called a Bible. [/b]</font> Revelation 22:19 - And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of...
    Post by: dcorbett, May 23, 2006 in forum: Bible Versions & Translations
  19. DHK
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    When did John the Baptist Get saved?

    Your thinking and logic is warped. It is the same thinking as Satan. Isaiah 14:12-14 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the...
    Post by: DHK, May 21, 2006 in forum: Baptist Theology & Bible Study
  20. gekko
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    Who are the sheep and the goats?

    Lucifer - mentioned here "Isaiah 14:12 - How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground,...
    Post by: gekko, May 16, 2006 in forum: Other Christian Denominations
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