Are the ice caps melting?

[Revmitchell]

The headlines last week brought us terrifying news: The North Pole will be ice-free this summer "for the first time in human history," wrote Steve Connor in The Independent. Or so the experts at the National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC) in Boulder, Colorado predict. This sounds very frightening, so let's look at the facts about polar sea ice.


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[LeBuick]

I had also read that this "soot snow" was caused by pollutants in the atmosphere. I think there is a disconnection in the definition of what's being studied. He is looking at relatively short periods of time (less than a century) where most are trying to predict and study the effects over thousands of years. However, I did read that we had a record freeze in the arctic late Oct early Nov. Thousands of square acres froze per day. Not sure if that proves anything.

"Soot snow/ice albedo climate forcing is not included in Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change evaluations. This forcing is unusually effective, causing twice as much global warming as a CO2 forcing of the same magnitude," he wrote.

 

[Jim1999]

I think there is a difference between air pollutants and actual global changes. The latter are normal in time, the former are man caused. The air pollutants we can do something about, the global changes will happen regardless of what we do.

Cheers,

Jim

 

[billreber]

1. I did NOT read the link. I find it unnecessary to read garbage about "global warming", when many of these so-called scientists can't even tell the truth about when the data they are using was taken. (Many of the predictions they are making is based on 30-year-old data, NOT recent data, because the recent data does not fit their agenda).

2. Are these predictions being made by the same people who predict the local weather in Spokane Washington? If so, the predictions are useless! For example, they predicted 4 to 6 inches of snow on one day in December, and the actual snowfall was closer to 10 to 12 inches. They also predicted an easy winter for Spokane this year, and we have received a record amount of snowfall for one month since records were kept. AND it only took 17 days for that record MONTHLY snowfall to fall!

Enough of my ranting. I totally agree with Jim1999, weather is going to happen, no matter what we humans do.

Bill :godisgood:

 

[Revmitchell]

1. I did NOT read the link. I find it unnecessary to read garbage about "global warming", when many of these so-called scientists can't even tell the truth about when the data they are using was taken. (Many of the predictions they are making is based on 30-year-old data, NOT recent data, because the recent data does not fit their agenda).

2. Are these predictions being made by the same people who predict the local weather in Spokane Washington? If so, the predictions are useless! For example, they predicted 4 to 6 inches of snow on one day in December, and the actual snowfall was closer to 10 to 12 inches. They also predicted an easy winter for Spokane this year, and we have received a record amount of snowfall for one month since records were kept. AND it only took 17 days for that record MONTHLY snowfall to fall!

Enough of my ranting. I totally agree with Jim1999, weather is going to happen, no matter what we humans do.

Bill :godisgood:

The link refutes global warming