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  1. tyndale1946

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    Ever since I've joined the BB there have been many ongoing questions and this is one of them... I am very familiar with all viewpoints but I come from a group of Baptist... Old Line/Old School Sovereign Grace Primitives, that view the Thousand Year Reign of Jesus Christ either metaphorical or symbolic... Not a literal reign as some do, later on... In my belief Christ is reigning now and is our mediator, sitting next to his Father in Heaven... So this is a few of my questions?

    1. The Godhead do everything with a reason and purpose, what is the reason and purpose for the thousand year reign? (don't say because the Bible says so, the Bible says a lot of things, that can be applied, metaphorical, symbolic and spiritual, not always literal).

    2. What does the thousand year reign accomplish?... Will any be added to Gods family, will any be lost?

    3. Where is Satan during all this time and those goats we are told about in the 25th Chapter of Matthew, who the Lord separates and consigns him and all that are not his sheep in the lake of fire?

    4. And if there is a thousand year reign, would someone please explain to me why the scriptures rule against it?

    You all know the resurrection chapter of 1 Corinthians 15

    1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

    15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

    15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

    15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

    15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

    15:27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.

    15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

    I'm bound for Eternal Heavenly Glory when the Lord comes again not some thousand year Millennial Kingdom, are you?... Brother Glen:)
     
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    As do many of those who are not "Reformed" in title, Glen.
    Here are some of them:

    "Reformed Churches in America",
    "Presbyterian", Scottish or otherwise,
    "Reformed Baptists",
    some "Landmark Baptists",
    many "Sovereign Grace Baptists",
    The Roman Catholic Church,
    The Lutheran Church,
    Eastern Orthodox,
    Oriental Orthodox,
    Methodists,
    Amish,
    Mennonite,
    Churches of Christ.
     
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    To put all enemies under His feet...literally.

    " Then [cometh] the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
    25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet."
    ( 1 Corinthians 15:24-25 ). <--- None of this has happened yet, in the real sense. When He comes again, everyone will reject Him, call for rocks to fall on them etc. It will be like when Mr. Trump was elected and people were laying on sidewalks in fits of rage, despair and frustration...only much, much worse.:Speechless

    Secondly, to fulfill Daniel 7:23-27,
    Micah 4,
    Zechariah 12,
    Zechariah 13,
    Zechariah 14,
    Daniel 2:31-45,
    Isaiah 2 through Isaiah 3:1-7,
    Isaiah 4:1-6,

    and many others.

    Ultimately, like saving any of us wicked sinners, He does it for His own reasons and for His glory, Glen.
    Also, I admit to being a bit surprised at the question...

    To me, anyone that sees election in the Bible for themselves,
    should be able and willing to recognize that God's every purpose is to bring glory and honor to Himself.:)
     
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    Again, fulfillment of prophecies.

    Also, a final period where mankind shall ( finally ) be forced to live under the rule of the One that they hate ( Romans 1:30, John 3:19-20, John 15:18-21 ) from Jerusalem...
    And there will be absolutely nothing that they can possibly do about it.
    They will be forced to beat their swords into plowshares, forced to live under the Law of God Himself, and forced to chafe under the "bit and bridle" of His every command as their rightful King.

    Every nation on earth will be subject to Him, and He will even keep the rain from falling upon a country that does not pay homage to Him ( Zechariah 14:17 ) and kings will kiss Him, lest He be angry with them ( Psalms 2 ).

    Personally,
    I suspect ( but cannot prove it from the Scriptures ) that it will serve as an example to those of us whom He has saved, as to all that we would have done apart from Him changing our hearts by His amazing grace.

    In other words,
    we as His people will have a front-row seat to see just how badly we would have reacted to His rule over us ( and His presence ), were it not for His grace and mercy to us.:Notworthy
    We know from the Scriptures that none of Christ's sheep shall be lost, and those written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world are all that have been added and will be added;
    I happen to believe that that "adding", from our point of view,
    will end when what's left of the nation of Israel shall physically see whom they have pierced and will mourn for Him ( John 19:37, Zechariah 12:10, Revelation 1:7 ).

    According to Revelation 20, those who reign with Him are the recipients of the first resurrection;
    Therefore, they are the ones written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world.

    None of the rest who are alive and are being ruled over, are or will be saved.
     
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    Satan is bound and cast into the bottomless pit, shut up there until the thousand years are expired...
    Per Revelation 20:1-3.

    The "goats" ( except those who are alive during the thousand years and are chafing under the rule of the God that they hate, deep down in their hearts ) are in Hell ( Hel, Gehenna, Hades, etc. the holding place of the spiritually dead ) awaiting the second resurrection unto death and their Judgment, when they shall be cast into the Lake of Fire ( Revelation 20:11-15 ).
    They don't.

    In fact, I see that the passage you listed is not contradicted in any way, shape or form by the existence of a God-glorifying 1,000 year reign of Christ on earth...
    Rather, it is confirmed.

    He will literally reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet...
    And quite thoroughly.

    The end, right before the Judgment, comes after that.
     
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    I'm bound for eternal glory whether or not it's when the Lord comes again,
    and that glory does include His sheep, the "whosoever believeth" from the heart, who shall be exalted with Him and to rule over their enemies, who have persecuted them for His name's sake.

    To me,
    it will be a very sobering, joyful and humbling honor to approach Him on His throne at Jerusalem any time that I want, knowing that I am indeed welcome in His presence, and to thank Him from the bottom of my heart for what He has done for me.

    I also count it very sobering,
    knowing that after the 1,000 years are finished and He has had His final victory over Satan and those who are deceived into following him,
    the earth is burned up, re-made, no longer has a sea, and the New Jerusalem ( prepared in Heaven for those that love Him ) comes down to earth...
    Just as Revelation 21 and Revelation 22 tells me.

    I feel that I cannot wait for it, but I know that I must.
    At the end of the day, all I have left on this earth is a short 20-40 years ( if that long )...
    But no matter what comes, I go to be with Him.

    I can wait a little longer if I have to. ;)


    Good afternoon to you, my friend,
    and may He bless you with many good and perfect gifts in the days to come.:)
     
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    Not up to the task and hand now Dave, not ignoring you, just can't think straight and I need a clear head to respond, I will table this discussion until later... Brother Glen:)
     
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    No need to discuss it Glen...
    I know where you stand.;)

    This is my last reply in this thread.

    Again, I wish you well and God's blessings upon you.
     
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    Yeah!... I guess we both do, that is why I was surprised that you were the only one to reply to this OP... I wish you the same my brother... Glen:)
     
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    Didn't want to waste my time. You're not budging and neither am I.
     
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    Verse 24 is the end of the 1000 year reign. Paul mentioned 3 separate events. The Cross had a resurrection of the OT church. The Second Coming is the glorification of both the OT and NT church. Then after the 1000 years there is now a very populated earth.

    The OT went to Paradise. The church has been going to Paradise one soul at a time since the Cross. The Second Coming does not remove the church from Paradise. The Second Coming removes all of Adam's flesh from the earth. The Millennium starts with a resurrection. The only survivors who escaped death are the 144k Male virgins. The firstfruits of the Second Coming are resurrected to earth no longer with sin natures. The 144k no longer have sin natures either. Now you have 1000 years of populating the earth without sin, and without Satan. Until the very end, and Satan gets to convince many just like he convinced Eve, to disobey the peace of the earth. Why is there a Millennium? Because the glorified church can no longer produce offspring. Whoever is living in Paradise will stay there until the New Jerusalem comes down in the NHNE.

    God is not going to repeat mixing the sons of God in with humanity on earth. Besides they can no longer have offspring any ways. Else they would keep populating Paradise for the last 1991 years.

    God has placed all of Adam's flesh into Paradise. Which would have been their home any way, if Adam had never disobeyed God. The Millennium is no longer about Adam's flesh. It is about Jacob's flesh as a restored Nation fulfilling Daniel 9. The wheat from the Second Coming, will represent all nations on earth. The wheat is harvested, meaning the souls are given permanent incorruptible bodies without a sin nature. Only at the very end will a rebellion be tolerated. Dealt with by a fire that consumes those who felt the need and desire to rebel. Then Death is defeated.
     
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    yes.

    "Christianity" would WITNESS and PREACH JESUS' SOON RETURN, if Satan hadn't fooled them with this fake joke of his.
     
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    The death nail and end to the 'mill' and 'trib' endless confusion is that:
    THE GODHEAD TODAY is
    Shown Throughout
    THE NEW TESTAMENT
    &
    THE BOOK of REVELATION
    in SEVEN SECTIONS.

    ***

    These
    “SEVEN DIFFERENT SECTIONS”
    within
    The BOOK of REVELATION
    DEPICT the ACTIVITY
    of THE TRIUNE GODHEAD
    from
    THE ASCENSION
    of JESUS CHRIST
    BACK to HEAVEN
    from EARTH
    until
    JESUS’ SECOND COMING
    to EARTH at
    THE END of THE WORLD.

    *****

    Principle #1:
    THE TWENTY-TWO CHAPTERS
    of The Book of Revelation

    are DIVIDED INTO SEVEN SECTIONS
    that are parallel to one another
    AND EACH DESCRIBES
    THE SAME LENGTH of TIME.

    ***

    EACH of the “SEVEN SECTIONS”
    Spans the Entire

    CHURCH AGE,
    from
    the First Coming
    of JESUS to EARTH

    at HIS ASCENSION
    BACK to HEAVEN

    until the Second Coming
    of Jesus Christ
    to EARTH in JUDGEMENT

    at THE END of THE WORLD.

    Each of these seven sections OVERLAP EACH OTHER 100%. The seven sections ARE LAYERED UPON ONE ANOTHER.

    The key is that section two is a capsulization of section one and section three recaptures the first two AND ADDS MORE GOD-HONORING DETAIL.

    FROM GOD AS HIS REVELATION.

    And each succeeding chapter does the same and GOES MORE IN-DEPTH INTO THE WAR BETWEEN SATAN AND GOD.

    EACH of the “SEVEN SECTIONS”
    Spans the Entire

    CHURCH AGE,
    from
    the First Coming
    of JESUS to EARTH

    at HIS ASCENSION
    BACK to HEAVEN

    until the Second Coming
    of Jesus Christ
    to EARTH in JUDGEMENT

    at THE END of THE WORL

    The one criticism is that they do not recapitalize (George Ladd)

    Mr. Ladd is 'el wrong-o fleshed filled dumb-o. (as we all are when we entirely miss God.)

    Love is the key.

    Do you love God enough for Him to have structured the seven sections of Revelation, as stated?

    (otherwise, a man will read Revelation chronologically AND THINK THEY KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT "THE END TIMES".

    They just missed 3/4ths of The BIBLE and made up 8 more man-made flesh 'Bibles' on the 'end times.

    With as many or more accursed 'gospels'...........

    JESUS IS COMING BACK AND THAT IS IT.

    9. ) THE GODHEAD in THE BOOK of REVELATION - ! Aware of the Godhead Master Index of Portfolio
     
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    REVELATION’S
    First Section of Seven
    concerns

    “Christ in the Midst
    of the Lampstands
    ( HIS CHURCHES)”
    in
    REVELATION

    1:1 – 3:22
    ***

    THE APOCALYPSE INTRODUCTION

    REVELATION’S
    REVELATION Chapter 1
    The predominating thought in Revelation chapter 1

    is that of the Exalted and Glorified Jesus Christ

    Amidst the congregations of His churches,

    His Constant Attendance with them

    and Concern for them.

    *

    REVELATION Chapter 2
    Revelation chapter 2 contains

    the first four of the seven letters

    to the churches which received

    these special communications

    from the Lord Jesus Christ

    through the apostle John

    as intermediary,

    these CHURCHES of JESUS CHRIST being:

    Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum and Thyatira.

    *

    REVELATION Chapter 3
    Revelation chapter 3 continues the letters

    to the seven churches,

    having the last three:

    to Sardis (Revelation 3:1-6),

    to Philadelphia (Revelation 3:7-13),

    and to Laodicea (Revelation 3:14-22).

    *

    Revelation Chapter 4
    At this point in Chapter 4 of Revelation

    there begin the Visions,

    in which are shown,

    under SYMBOLIC figures,

    the SPIRITUAL Forces

    by which the life of the churches

    of JESUS CHRIST are affected.

    *

    “She” ( THE LORD’S CHURCHES )

    are shown God and the Lamb,

    the Devil, the Beast,

    the False Prophet, and the Apostate City.

    *

    Then she is shown the Victory of Jesus Christ,

    and the Eternal Defeat

    of the Powers of Evil.”

    ***

    Revelation Chapter 5
    Without any doubt whatever,

    this chapter is a continuation

    of the Throne of God scene in Revelation 4.

    *

    The same Throne, the same Living Creatures,

    the same angels, the same 24 elders,

    the same Solemn Worship,

    and the same Person on the Throne

    are present here

    that were seen in Revelation 4.

    *

    The Great New Element that comes to Light

    in this portion of the Vision

    is that of the Lamb of God

    Revelation Chapter 6
    Revelation Chapter 7
    An ANGEL stands in the Vision
    as an executor of the Will of God,
    the big thought of the passage
    relating not to his identity
    but to his great authority to control nature itself
    in order to prevent any frustration
    of God’s Plans to Seal His servants.

    *

    Again, This
    “Second Section of Seven”,
    “The Vision of Heaven
    and the Seals”
    in
    REVELATION

    4:1 – 7:17
    begins with Jesus Christ
    Exalted on His Throne
    Opening the scroll with Seven Seals.

    ***

    The Lamb, having been Slain,
    now Rules in Glory.

    *

    History unfolds
    as a sequence of Judgments
    visited upon mankind
    which concludes
    with a depiction of Final Judgment.
    ***

    This Second Sections begins
    with events associated
    with Jesus Christ’s First Coming
    in Revelation 5:5,6;
    “And one of the elders
    said to me,
    Weep not: behold,
    the Lion of the Tribe of Juda,
    the Root of David,
    has Prevailed
    to Open the Book,
    and to Loose
    the Seven Seals thereof.”
    *
    “And I beheld, and, there,
    in the Midst of the Throne
    and of the four beasts,
    and in the midst
    of the elders,
    stood a Lamb
    as it had been Slain,
    having Seven Horns
    and Seven Eyes,
    which are
    the Seven Spirits of God
    Sent Forth
    into all the Earth.”

    *

    And then, this
    “Second Section of Seven”,
    in REVELATION,
    ends with events associated
    with Christ’s Second Coming
    in Revelation 6:17; 7:16,17;

    *

    “For the Great Day
    of His Wrath is Come;
    and who
    will be able to stand?”

    *

    “They will hunger no more,
    neither thirst any more;
    neither will the sun
    light on them,
    nor any heat.

    *

    “For the Lamb
    which is in the Midst
    of the Throne
    will Feed them,
    and will Lead them to
    Living Fountains of Waters:

    *

    “and God
    Will Wipe Away
    all tears from their eyes.”

    ***

    REVELATION’S
    “Third Section of Seven”
    concerns

    “The Seven Trumpets”
    in
    REVELATION

    8:1 – 11:19
    The Trumpets Announce
    Judgments on the World.

    ***

    Jesus’ churches in chapters 10 & 11

    continue to Bear Witness.

    At the end of this
    “THIRD SECTION of SEVEN”


    allusion is again made

    to Final Judgment

    in REVELATION 11:15,18;

    “And the seventh angel
    sounded;
    and there were
    great voices in heaven,
    saying,
    The kingdoms of this world
    are become
    the Kingdoms of our Lord,
    and of His Christ;
    and He will Reign
    For Ever and Ever”

    ***

    “And the nations were angry,
    and Your Wrath is Come,
    and the Time of the Dead,
    that they should be Judged,
    and that You
    should Give Reward
    to Your servants
    the Prophets,
    and to the saints,
    and them
    that fear Your Name,
    small and great;
    and should Destroy them
    which Destroy the Earth.”

    ***

    *****************************
     
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    REVELATION’S
    Forth Section of Seven
    describes
    “The Persecuting Dragon”
    in
    REVELATION
    12:1 – 14:20.
    ***

    This Forth Section begins
    ”FURTHER BACK IN TIME”
    ( than JESUS’ EARTHY MINISTRY )
    and encompasses
    the History of the World
    from Creation
    to JESUS’ FIRST COMING
    and then
    to JESUS’ SECOND COMING.

    ***

    Christ’s First Coming
    is summarized in REVELATION 12:5;

    “And she brought forth
    a Man Child,
    who was to Rule all nations
    with a Rod of Iron:
    and her Child
    was caught up to God,
    and to His Throne.”

    ***

    As Jesus Christ
    is now Enthroned,
    the Dragon makes war
    against the saints,
    employing the services
    of the Beast
    in REVELATION 13:1;
    “And I stood on
    the sand of the sea,
    and saw a beast
    rise up out of the sea,
    having seven heads
    and ten horns,
    and on his horns ten crowns,
    and on his heads
    the name of blasphemy.”

    ***

    The Second Beast
    or False Prophet
    is EMPLOYED
    BY THE DRAGON:

    in REVELATION 13:11,12;
    “And I beheld
    another beast
    coming up out of the earth;
    and he had
    two horns like a lamb,
    and he spake as a dragon.
    And he exercised
    all the power
    of the first beast
    before him,
    and caused the earth
    and them
    which dwell therein
    to worship the first beast,
    whose deadly wound
    was healed.”

    ***

    And the Whore
    – Babylon
    is EMPLOYED
    BY THE DRAGON:

    in REVELATION 14:8;
    “And there followed
    another angel,
    saying,
    Babylon is fallen,
    is fallen,
    that great city,
    because she made all nations
    drink of the wine of the wrath
    of her fornication.”

    ***

    Jesus Christ’s Second Coming
    in Judgment
    is seen at the End
    of this
    FORTH of SEVEN SECTIONS
    in REVELATION 14:14-16;

    “And I looked,
    and behold a white cloud,
    and on the cloud One Sat
    like the Son of Man,

    ***

    having on His Head
    a Golden Crown,
    and in His Hand
    a Sharp Sickle.

    ***

    And another angel
    came out of the temple,
    crying with a loud voice
    to Him
    that Sat on the cloud,
    Thrust in Your Sickle,
    and Reap:

    ***

    for the Time is Come
    for You to Reap;
    for the Harvest
    of the Earth is ripe.

    ***

    And He
    that Sat on the cloud
    Thrust in His Sickle
    on the Earth;
    and the Earth
    was Reaped.”

    ***


    The Fifth Section of Seven
    concerns

    “The Seven Bowls”
    in REVELATION 15:1 – 16:21.
    ***
    In this Fifth Section
    is another description
    of the Judgments of God
    which concludes
    with the Final Judgment
    in REVELATION 16:20;

    “And every island fled away,
    and the mountains
    were not found..”

    ***
    The Sixth Section of Seven
    concerns
    “The Fall of Babylon”
    in REVELATION 17:1 – 19:21.
    ***

    The World System
    which prevails
    between the First Coming
    and Second Coming
    of Jesus Christ to Earth
    is defeated by Jesus Christ at
    THE RETURN of JESUS CHRIST.

    ***

    JESUS’ RETURN is described in
    REVELATION 19:11-16;

    “And I saw Heaven opened,
    and behold a White Horse;
    and He that Sat on him
    was called Faithful
    and True,
    and in Righteousness
    He does Judge
    and Make War.

    ***
    “His Eyes
    were as a Flame of Fire,
    and on His Head
    were Many Crowns;
    and He had a Name written,
    that no man knew,
    but He Himself.

    ***
    “And He was Clothed
    with a Robe;
    Dipped in Blood:
    and His Name is called
    The Word of God.

    ***
    “And the armies
    which were in Heaven
    followed Him on White Horses,
    Clothed in Fine Linen,
    White and Clean.

    ***
    “And out of His Mouth
    goes a Sharp Sword,
    that with it He should
    Smite the Nations:

    ***
    “and He will Rule them
    with a Rod of Iron:
    and He Treads
    the Wine-press
    of the Fierceness
    and Wrath
    of Almighty God.

    ***
    “And He has on His Robe
    and on His Thigh
    a Name Written,

    ***

    “KING OF KINGS,
    AND LORD OF LORDS.”

    ***

    The Seventh Section of Seven
    concerns
    “The Great Consummation”

    in REVELATION 20:1 – 22:21.
    ***

    Here we meet up with
    the final demise of Satan.

    ***

    We are told in REVELATION 20:2,3
    of Satan being bound for 1,000 years
    - a binding which commenced
    in Jesus Christ’s First Coming
    (cf. Mt 12:29;)

    “Or else
    how can one enter
    into a strong man’s house,
    and spoil his goods,
    ***
    except he first bind
    the strong man?
    and then
    he will spoil his house.”

    ***

    And this “binding of the strong man”, Satan,
    Spoken of in Matthew 12:29, by Jesus Christ,
    parallels Satan being “cast out”,
    when John mentioned this,
    in REVELATION 12:9;

    And the Great Dragon
    was cast out,
    that old serpent,
    called the Devil,
    and Satan,
    which deceives
    the whole world:
    ***
    “he was cast out
    into the earth,
    and his angels
    were cast out with him.”

    ***

    This “1,000 years”,
    SPOKEN of “SYMBOLICALLY”,
    DEPICTS “A SEEMINGLY ENDLESS”
    PERIOD of TIME ( a 1,000 years ),
    AND YET THAT PERIOD of TIME
    IS FINITE !

    ***

    A “calender” PERIOD of TIME,
    of 1,000 “ACTUAL” years
    IS NEVER INTENDED.

    ***

    This “1,000 years”,
    SPOKEN of “SYMBOLICALLY”,
    DEPICTS
    the PERIOD of TIME
    and the ACTIVITY
    of THE TRIUNE GODHEAD
    from
    THE ASCENSION
    of JESUS CHRIST
    BACK to HEAVEN
    from EARTH
    until
    JESUS’ SECOND COMING
    to EARTH at
    THE END of THE WORLD.

    ***

    AFTER,
    THIS PERIOD of TIME,
    BETWEEN
    the FIRST COMING of JESUS
    and JESUS SECOND COMING
    there is “a little season”
    in which Satan is loosed,
    in (REVELATION 20:7;

    And when
    the thousand years

    ( SPOKEN of “SYMBOLICALLY”,
    and DEPICTING
    “A SEEMINGLY ENDLESS”
    PERIOD of TIME ( a 1,000 years ),
    AND YET THAT PERIOD of TIME
    IS FINITE !)

    are expired,
    Satan will be loosed
    out of his prison”

    ***

    SATAN’S DOOM
    WHEN THE DRAGON
    is finally overthrown
    is in REVELATION 20:10;

    And the devil
    that deceived them
    was cast into the Lake of Fire
    and Brimstone,
    ***
    “where the Beast
    and the False Prophet are,
    and will be Tormented
    Day and Night
    For Ever and Ever.”

    ***

    The Book of REVELATION
    consists of Seven Sections,
    ***
    These Seven Sections
    run parallel to one another.

    ***

    Each of the
    “SEVEN SECTIONS”
    Subject Matter Spans the Entire
    PERIOD of TIME in HISTORY
    from the First Coming
    of Jesus Christ to Earth,
    until the Second Coming
    of Jesus Christ to Earth,
    IN JUDGEMENT.
    ***
    This Period of Time,
    from the First Coming
    of Jesus Christ to Earth,
    until the Second Coming
    of Jesus Christ to Earth,
    is PRESENTED to US,
    in the SEVEN DIFFERENT SECTIONS,
    as GOD “UNVEILS” ONE VIEW POINT
    & ASPECT
    of HIS REVELATION to MANKIND,

    REGARDING THIS
    “END TIME” PERIOD
    of THE CHURCH AGE

    WHILE, IN OTHERS
    of the “SEVEN SECTIONS”
    GOD HAS BEEN PLEASED
    to REVEAL & “UNVEIL”
    VARIOUS OTHER
    PURE REVELATIONS,

    FROM THE ETERNAL
    TRUINE GODHEAD,
    to man on Earth.

    ***
    Adapted from

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    Ever since I have been a young man I have always heard this axiom... The Old Testament is The New Testament CONCEALED and The New Testament is The Old Testament REVEALED!... Historically I believe it and Spiritually I believe it also but when?... I also believe that Jesus Christ is sitting on a throne NOW!... REIGNING!... He has been REIGNING over his people ever since he went back to HEAVEN, over 2,000 years ago... All of his children are Kings and Priest NOW, and serve him in that capacity, we don't serve a KING THAT IS NOT REIGNING... How can we be subjects to a KING that has no KINGDOM?... If we aren't serving a REIGNING KING JESUS CHRIST, who are we serving?... In the words of a musical bard of our generation, Bob Dylan... You Gotta Serve Some Body!... Brother Glen:)

    1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

    2:10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.
     
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    1000 year reign of Christ on the earth why?
    Conquering the worldly kingdoms completely and utterly and making a grand show of this is throughout scripture. Read Daniel 7
    The kingdoms must be given to the people of God.

    And Jesus tells us the meek shall inherit the earth.

    I also view it as an Eden like time renewal till we get the new heavens and new earth.
    The earth shall be ruled as it should have been, not as it was under Satan's sway.

    What does it say about the Son of God here? and about the rest of the beasts? (kingdoms and powers of the nations)
    11 “I watched then because of the sound of the pompous words which the horn was speaking; I watched till the beast was slain, and its body destroyed and given to the burning flame. 12 As for the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away, yet their lives were prolonged for a season and a time.

    13 “I was watching in the night visions,
    And behold, One like the Son of Man,
    Coming with the clouds of heaven!
    He came to the Ancient of Days,
    And they brought Him near before Him.
    14 Then to Him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom,
    That all peoples, nations, and languages should serve Him.

    His dominion is an everlasting dominion,
    Which shall not pass away,
    And His kingdom the one
    Which shall not be destroyed.

    And we get more here, about the people of God

    And shall subdue three kings.
    25 He shall speak pompous words against the Most High,
    Shall persecute the saints of the Most High,
    And shall intend to change times and law.
    Then the saints shall be given into his hand
    For a time and times and half a time.

    26 ‘But the court shall be seated,
    And they shall take away his dominion,
    To consume and destroy it forever.
    27 Then the kingdom and dominion,
    And the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven,
    Shall be given to the people, the saints of the Most High.

    His kingdom is an everlasting kingdom,
    And all dominions shall serve and obey Him.’
     
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    This is after the Judgement in Revelation 20:14, ". . . And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. . . ."
     
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    I have been listening to this argument since I first joined many years ago... I and other brethren understand it one way and others see it different... I know what I believe and I will stand on that believe and there is no one here, that has changed it... That being said, it does not matter what each of us believe as we can speculate all we want, the events have not come to pass... The Final Resurrection that is!... We can all agree, that we do not possess a sinless body... We are all going to die and as one of our stanzas in one of our song states... My latest sun is sinking fast, my race is nearly run... The fact is, any of us could die any day... So as the Apostle Paul says... I will wait till my change come... We can say and believe what we want but the events are in Lords hands and it will be how he purposes it, according to his will and plan and not how we want it to be... I wish all you brethren on this OP only, farewell in the Lord... I'm excusing myself from this discussion and hopefully from the same topic in the future... Brother Glen:)
     
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    Brother, it is not understandable why, if you disagree with the plain order of events, that you do so. You seem to know something you seem to choose not to explain.

     
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