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Old 04-15-2006, 09:59 PM
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Has God ever put you through some major trials and tribulations in your life? Looking back on them now, what did you learn from them, if anything? Are you better off now because of them?

How can we know if the trials we are going to are of our own creation, like what we sow we reap... or if they are coming from God? Does it make a difference? Will God use them regardless?

What if it seems like the trial you are going through will never have an ending?

What if you have prayed and prayed, asking God to help you but it seems like nothing happens?

What if you have tried to put away all your sins and do everything you could think of, thinking that maybe God wanted to arrest you in your path and reprove you so that you would get onto the correct path, but still nothing happens?

What if you are relying only on Jesus and so you know thats not the problem?

Has anyone else ever gone through severe trials not undrstanding why all these things were coming upon them? Have you wondered if God were angry with you? Did it seem like one thing after another happened to you, and you just couldnt figure out the reasons why God would allow these things to happen to you all of a sudden? Like one day you wake up and your entire world has changed with no explanation?

Did it make you wonder if God didnt want you around any more? and did you waffle back and forth between trust in God's providence and then shifting over to giving into the temptation of listening to the devil when he tells you that God has cast you off?

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Old 04-15-2006, 10:39 PM
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If you can answer yes to these questions then your name is Job. [img]graemlins/thumbs.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/saint.gif[/img]
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Old 04-15-2006, 11:35 PM
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Because the LORD giveth, and the LORD taketh away,blessed be the name of the LORD.
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Old 04-15-2006, 11:54 PM
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If you can answer yes to these questions then your name is Job. [img]graemlins/thumbs.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/saint.gif[/img]
Job..yes. Or another person...James..that's me..
and oh yes...Mary..and Joe. and how about ann...and sally may...uncle harry. hey..lets face it. that's life. it happens to all of use sometimes.

We can not understand it when we are going though it...but looking back, we see God at work. We may not have thought he was there when the bad things happen to us....but later we more clearly His Plan.

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Old 04-15-2006, 11:56 PM
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To address the OP...WHY DOES GOD DO THIS?

It is to bring glory to God.


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Old 04-16-2006, 12:10 AM
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Claudia, do you have been the nerve to ask God if you're in the church( denomination) He wants you in? Only you can answer this question and only you can ask that question.
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Old 04-16-2006, 02:06 AM
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Luk 12:48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.

I figure we go through trials as a test to step up to another level. Hat don't kill us makes us stronger. The main thing is to learn from them so we don't go back around that mountian again. [img]graemlins/wave.gif[/img]
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Claudia, you expressed, what I felt today.... It is nice to hear that other Christians feel the same way sometimes...

I need your prayers....
Satan if buffeting me on everyside, it feels like.
but I know that God has the power, and that he just isn't the God of the past, or God of the Future, but the God of now!

I believe that whatever we go through, God uses to benefit us, and glorify him... it may not be comfortable to go through, but He never promised comfort..

His ultimate goal is to conform us into the image of his son, Jesus. Sometimes, He has to burn things away in order to do that... during those periods it can feel that God is sooooo distant.

It all boils down to faith... knowing that God is in control of everything. Praise Him! After all, that is all we can do.... Praise Him in the Storm! When everything is falling apart, He is still in control... So praise Him!

I know it is hard... it is not natural... But that is the beauty of it... it is SUPERnatural... and it shows God we trust him.

OK, now I feel like preaching, I'd better save it until in the morning!
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Old 04-16-2006, 11:14 AM
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tinytim,

You have no idea how comforting it is to me just knowing you can undestand how I feel. I will certainly pray for you and you please pray for me too, ok? I could really use your payers right now

Its like one day, everything seems to be going along "okay" or at least tolerable. Then the next day my whole world is falling apart and its difficult to understand exactly what it is that God is trying to tell me, and/or teach me.

When I first got married I thought my husband was a Christian, but ever since then he has been trying to talk me out of having faith in God and the Bible. Throughout our 6 year marriage he has threatened to hit me, etc, but hasnt as of yet. In fact during the first year, he had said something and I was upset and said I had wished I never came to be with him, and we were in the kitchen and he pulls thisr knife out of the drawer and holds it up as if he were going to hurt me with it. Then he shakes his head and acts like he "snapped out of it". Later when we were sitting at the kitchen table, he tells me his "psychiatrist told him he has homocidal and suicidal tendencies but that he wasnt too concerned about it". And I thought "Oh boy, what have I gotten myself into?"

That was the only time he has done anything that drastic, since then just holding his hand up like he was going to hit me. But he hasnt actually done that though.

Anyway, all this time I have been trying SO hard to just do what the Bible says and it says if you have an unbelieving husband you are supposed to stay with them unless they be pleased to leave you. So Ive been trying to be a good example as a Christian and so on.

About 6 months or so ago it just got where I couldnt hardly stand it any longer and I just felt so alone. I prayed to God and told Him that I was going to make new efforts though to try and be a good wife, a good example to him, because the Bible says you might win them over to Christ by doing so. Well all he did was get angry at me because I didnt want to do the kinds of things he wanted... go to nightclubs, drink alcohol, smoke cigarettes and so on. He just acted so differently when I had met him. Told me he was a Minister, and etc. He is of a different denomination than I am but acted like he had started to believe many of the same doctrines that I do.

Anyway I had told God that I couldnt stand it anymore and that if He wanted me to get out of this marriage to please help me to understand that and to help me. I also old God I couldnt stand living right on Main Street anymore with the cars, trucks, buses going by our house all the time, it was making it difficult for me to breathe.

So okay everything is going along pretty well, Its tolerable, etc... then one morning I wake up and my entire world is falling apart.

The city decides the rent house we are living in must be torn down because they are going to build a new post office there in that area... so we HAD to move out and the Landlord moves us to another one of his houses... lots further away from Main Street, and Im thinking wow God thanks, this is great! and we move to this new rent house with two bedrooms, lots bigger than the other place and Im experiencing some actual happiness for a bit.


Well suddenly he starts practically living in this other bedroom, sleeping there, etc and hardly ever at home, he wouldnt ever tell me where he was going, when he would be back, etc... If I'd knock on his door and go in, he would shut down his computer really quick and act like he was going to hit me... etc. So I figured well ok this means he must be having an affair with someone, which wouldnt surprise me at all, given some of the things he has told me.


Then I kept praying for God to help me be a good wife and so on... and I look up something on the internet about domestic abuse and come across this site about something called Narcissistic Personality Disorder. And I just about freak out because I was reading the online book someone had written about it and it was like this guy who wrote it, describing what it is, had been living with my husband all his life. And it was like, How does this guy know all of these things? Like my husband fit all this stuff to a tee. It was frightening. Basically it said these people only care about themselves and will do anything at all to get "Narcissistic Supply".. meaning adoration, attention, people bowing down to them ... They will use people, put everybody down all the time, and so on. They are very sadistic and enjoy hurting people... especially the one they get married to. And it said if they figure they cant use you for anything they will dump you, just like that, out of the blue and usually at the very worst time of your life.

So Im thinking, ok why is God showing all of this to me now? what am I supposed to do with this informtion?

A few days later he goes out of town (which he does frequently) and soon as he leaves which was in the start of February, I wake up and its freezing in the house. It turns out he left without paying the heating oil bill. Well I only mke a couple hundred dollars or so a month doing web design, so I couldnt afford the $360 for the heating bill and I sent him an email asking if he could send me money to pay it, plus it usually takes days before they'll even come out to fill the heating oil thing anyway.

See, all along, since we moved to this new place hes been making me pay for everything all of a sudden, like if Id ask him to go get some groceries he would say ok but then never do it till finally I'd offer to pay for them. And my bank account was dwindling down to just about nothing by now.

So I was pretty upset that he left without paying the heating oil bill. I asked what he was going to pull next, leave town and not pay the rent? So he says well how about if I just dont come home then? Then he writes me this email saying he is leaving me and that he hates my religion. Which is stupid because Ive hardly even talked about my religion to him. But every time I'd turn around he would be trying to talk me out of being a Christian. I havent been to church in about 6 years now, since I dont want to go anywhere with him.

I have been basically isolating myself for the last 6 years from people, I didnt want to go anywhere with him. So anyway I starting getting really upset, I didnt have anywhere to go and he had said he was leaving me and that I needed to figure out what I was going to do. I didnt have anywhere to go. I called to find out if my parents might help me, and was told they got over a million dollars from the house they had and moved to Holland and that they really werent my parents, I was adopted.

So then I REALLY got upset, and started pacing around the house, wondering what I was going to do and the next day my foot was all swollen, I had reinjured my foot that I had injured over 20 years ago when I went dancing all night, which of course I shoudnt of done.


Then Im thinking, well now I REALLY cant get a job, if I cant walk. It made me realize that if I did over and above normal housework type stuff that I could re-injure it. I dont think my foot was ever properly treated in the first place.

So a christian lady in a chat room told me I ought to try and get Social Security Disability, which her husband gets because he walks with a cane. So I thought that might be a good idea I would try that. So I went to the doctors thinking they probably wouldnt do anything about my actual foot injury like last tiome but that maybe since its been 20 years ago they might have better tests they can can and I could at least get it documented that I have an injury and perhaps get on Social Security Disability.

I expected it would just get better on its own like last time and there wouldnt be any more problem with it. This was about 2 months ago.

My foot has gotten progressively worse, it turns purple/blue if I sit down at my computer or in a chair. The doctor said she thinks it as nerve damage and is going to have her assistant do tests on the 26 of April. Im have to practically beg my husband to take me to the doctors appointments. It has gotten to where I nearly have to lie down on my right side, in the bed, to keep my foot from actig up and Im going nuts having to lie in bed all the time this way. Im scared of course, wondering whats going on with it and if they will find out and make it better. or am I going to be lying down the rest of my life or what?


Ok so he tells me hes leaving me, I have no money and no place to go, I find out my parents arent really my parents, I reinjure my foot and am basically helpless and couldnt leave even if I wanted to (which I do at this point)...

Then day before yesterday my sister in law writes and tells me my husands father is dying of cancer (which my husband didnt think was worth telling me)... Then she calls last night and says he probably wont make it through the night.


I have called and written all sorts of places, different churches denominations, etc and everybody says they ae praying for me... well a whole lot of good that does for me, right?

I have done everything I could think of, inspecting my woul, in heart putting away all my sins, relying only on the righteousness of Christ, praying, crying, praying, crying.. trusting in God, and everything else..

But I just do not understand what is going on or what God is trying to do with me???

It is so difficult to try and figure out what Im supposed to do and what it is exactly that God is trying to teach me.

One thing Ive learned is God is my only hope. If anyone is going to get me out of this situation it will have to be Him.


And a couple of times it has felt like I was going to die and at those times I learned total reliance on the sacrifice of Christ. You can kind of know these things in theory but when it comes to facing death you learn it in a whole different way... like in reality.

I finally called the local Methodist church and they are going to help me with getting me to doctors appointments, so thats good at least.

Anyway I am totally confused right about now. Sometimes I wonder if God has abandoned me, sometimes I wonder if He is answering my prayers and is going to get me away from him, sometimes I think maybe God sees dangers up ahead that I cant see and is protecting me somehow from them even though it doesnt seem like it...

..I just dont know.


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mima,

No, I dont think so... I am completely settled about what denomination I belong in. Thats not the problem.

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