10 Reasons Not To Vote For Senator McCain

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  1. KenH

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    McCain-Palin? 10 Reasons to Count Me Out
    by Rose Ann DeMoro

    For advocates of improvements in health care, retirement security, and such fairness issues as pay equity, there's a lot at stake in the November election.

    Amidst the worst economic crisis in this nation since the 1930s, the prospect of a John McCain-Sarah Palin administration hardly offers much confidence for the future. Here's 10 reasons why:

    - For the 10 reasons go to www.huffingtonpost.com/rose-ann-demoro/mccain-palin-10-reasons-t_b_127609.html
     
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    I watched a program today that said there are 46 Million American's who have no health insurance. Some are very sick or terminally ill. I look forward to Sen Obama doing something to help these friends and neighbors.
     
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    I only needed 1 reason not to vote for McCain--------- Sarah Palin.
    The campaigns of both the Democrats and Republicans have both become more about style than substance. They both have become novelty acts, something different for the sake of being different but hey it seems by the reaction I see on this board that this is what people want anyway. I just don't see it as being a responsible way to choose who you want to vote for.
     
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    I think you mistitled this - it should read:
    10 yreasons to vote McCain Palin
     
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    I agree, I think it's time the American people demand more from a presidential campaign.

    1. Any false statements about your opponent should be considered defamation of character.
    2. Any stretching of the truth about your record should be considered false advertising
    3. We should be able to vote president and VP separately and not on the same ticket.
     
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    One reason TO vote for McCain-Palin: PRO-LIFE!
     
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    I agree, but for some reason, that's not a good enough reason for many (and many here on the BB).
     
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    As compared to what some pro-lifers apparently believe based on the policies they support some of us pro-lifers believe that life begins at conception and continues after birth.
     
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    There is much more to life and the welfare of this nation than this one issue. Also, as I have said and explained before, regardless of who wins, nothing will be done about abortion.
     
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    With credit to Rose Ann DeMoro and the Huffington Post, I think these are 10 great reasons to vote for McCain. Here are her 10 reasons:
    She absolutely lies about McCain’s plan here. Rose says that McCain would, “tax current health care benefits.” McCain’s plan calls for moving insurance from the employer to the individual and would not tax the premiums paid by the individual. It allows the self employed and small business employee to get the same health care coverage large corporations can get. It evens the playing filed. DeMoro quote’s the Dallas Morning News that this would result in the death of company health plans, that is partially true, those plans would no longer be the property of the companies and would instead be available to every American. This is a great reason to vote for McCain.
    Only if you choose a cheaper plan. The freedom to choose your own insurance is the foundation of McCain’s plan. Not really another great reason to vote for McCain, more like a restatement of reason number 1.
    How about, “get rid of government meddling” into the insurance coverage. Consumers would have complete freedom to pick and choose the provider and coverage they want to pay for. Again this is just a restatement of number 1.
    McCain is absolutely right here. We have many Americans who are not insured yet they have access to Medical coverage better than 90% of the world enjoys. The problem is not the medical coverage but who pays for it. McCain’s insurance plan would force many of these Americans to pay for the care they are already receiving. Anther great reason to vote McCain.
    Privatization is the only option that preserves Social Security. You don’t need to know anything about investing to know that a savings account gives you a greater return than Social Security does now. Even if it were just put in municipal bonds we would get a better return. This is another good reason to vote McCain. The greatest risk is to do nothing.
    What promise? McCain’s health plan preserves what we have and makes it accessible to more of our people.
    Yes, they are. While we make small adjustments our fundamentals are strong. The problems we have now are not from a lack of government meddling but from too much meddling. Those loans would never have been made in the first place if it were not for our government. That is why the government must bail out these firms, because if it were not for our government they would not be in this mess. McCain has tried to fix this for years and perhaps as President he will finally be able to.
    These bills that McCain opposes are nothing less than affirmative action and sexism legalized in the workplace. We don’t need more of this. Good one for McCain.
    While these are ok they are still left of what I would like. I hope McCain does come through here. This is probably the #1 reason to vote McCain. We need strict constitutionalists on the court not these legislate by the bench liberals who are forcing an agenda down the American people’s throats that most Americans oppose.
    The only real conservative in this race, put me down for voting Palin for president in ’12.
     
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    Agreed Crabtown, there is a lot more at stake with this election than abortion and no matter who wins abortion will continue. If Obama would change his stand on every other issue I will support him even though he favors the murder of innocents. If he will agree to fight terrorists where they are. If he will agree to win the war in Iraq and establish democracy in the middle east. If he will drill for American oil and end our dependence on other nations. If he will oppose the nationalization of health care system and pledge to preserve the level of care we enjoy today. If he will support litigation reform that will lower the cost of our healthcare and consumer goods. If he will revise the tax code and move to a consumer based tax. If he will support the privatization of social security, the only option that preserves it for my generation.

    If Barak could do some of these things I could overlook his stand that deprives the unborn of their right to life. It would be hard, but I could do it. As it is abortion is only one of a long list of reasons to oppose Obama.
     
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    Since when is it the function of the United States government to tell other nations that have never attacked us what form of government that they should have?
     
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    Good question Ken and it does come back to a difference in how we view America's role in the world.

    One of the points of the Bush Doctrine, although you may disagree with it, is that we will support democracy around the world. Those of us who believe in this believe that by supporting democracy we will combat the threat of terrorism and support American interests by growing nations that are friendly to us.

    This goes a step beyond the preemptive strike, we want to eliminate the threat by never allowing it to come into being. We believe that our threats come not from conquering nations that seek to destroy us but from failing nations, from the poor and disillusioned of society that blame the US for their state.

    By passing on the liberty that we have inherited we will grow successful nations. As well as a part of our security this is part of our responsibility as a free nation to the rest of the world. Bush captured this beautifully when he said:

    This idea that it is America's responsibility to support democracy is not new to George Bush but has been a part of our foreign policy for generations. Today we may call it part of the Bush Policy but President Truman used the same idea to justify the Marshal plan. Roosevelt used it with lend-lease and Wilson did the same with his 14 points. Thomas Pain's "Rights of Man," gave us the same theory long ago, that successful governments are not the threat to us that failing ones are. To quote Pain:

    The idea is that the threat to our security comes from these nations, founded on poor principles and ruled by the same. If we can instead, encourage nations of right principle and leadership we can in fact ensure our security before the threat even developers.

    Now you can argue that this does not work or you can argue that you do not see this as America's role in the world, but I do. I see it as a foundation for our security and part of our responsibility to the rest of the world. God has given us a great gift of freedom and we must not only safeguard that freedom but must encourage its growth. Rather than bury our freedom like a talent of gold in the earth we must venture out and put it at risk in order to encourage growth.

    At least thats my opinion, for what its worth.
     
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    Amen. That's enough for me. I will not vote for someone who so disregards life that he feels that if a baby is born alive as a result of an abortion procedure, it's OK to murder them. That's just demented and sick and I have no desire to be in a country run by someone who's so twisted.
     
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    I know you do. I, however, do not support such a neo-conservative philosophy as you and Senator McCain espouse.
     
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    We know. You tell us in practically every thread. Sheesh!:rolleyes:
     
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    Ken, let's be honest, you have flip-flopped from every party and candidate there is to avoid the Republicans. You dont care who wins as long as its not a Republican.

    You just hate republicans.

    I am sure that since the Republicans represent life for unborn babies and oppose gay marriage, that Satan hates Republicans also.

    AJ
     
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    Supporting the slaughter of unborn children under any circumstances shows a lack of character, intelligence, and morality. And we do not need that in the whitehouse.
     
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    Me too. But it's not Sarah, it's Obama.
     
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    :thumbs: I don't see the logic in it but if you choose not to vote for McCain because of Obama then I am all for it.
     

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