1769 KJV spelling?

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  1. TC

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    I was reading a number of KJVO Websites and have found people now defend the spelling of the 1769 KJV and that to make any changes to modernize spelling is viewed as corrupting God's word. For example, one place stated that to change neighbour to neighbor, flavour to flavor, saviour to savior, ect. was preparing the church to worship the anti-christ. After all, God inspire those words to have seven letters and that the words spelled with six letters is a satanic corruption. The auther gave many more examples and defended the 1769 KJV spelling with numerology. I've study the development of this numerology system that he uses and have found that every such numerology system has roots in the Jewish Kaballah - the branch of Jewish mysticism. No modern numerology system like the one this guy used goes back any further that the start of the Kaballah. I can't remember where (it's been a while) but I read a Jewish professor of ancient Hebrew state that the kaballists corrupted the Hebrew language by saying that each Hebrew letter had a number assigned to it - so the basic premise of numerology is wrong. He said that if it were so, ancient Hebrew writing would have simply used the right combination of letters in expressing numbers instead of having whole, complete words for numbers.

    Does anybody else see a problem defending a certain spelling of a word based on numerology systems with questionable roots? Many of the sights linking to this defense of the 1769 KJV spelling defense paper are baptists. Do they not see the problems in that? What are your thoughts?
     
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    Surely you are not advocating the Americanised spellings for Sacret Writ?

    The KJV was given for ENGLISH speaking people, not speakers of the American corruption of the English language.

    It was that wicked, vile Noah Webster who decided to pervert God's chosen language and standardise spellings for Americans. He should have been cast into gaol for his actions!!!

    (he sadi with sarcasm dripping from his lips)
     
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    And Noah Webster translated the Bible into American English, as you recall.

    Of course, it was different from the AV1611 so of no value. Just another mv hack . .

    (BTW, isn't "gaol" that Riplinger gal's first name in AV language?"
     
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    Just like Father Dr. Bob Griffin is in BV/T language. :D

    I spell those words both ways, I must be half and half, more one way on somedays than others, that is I am the bigger half one day and the next I'm the other bigger half.

    I admit many of the "Brethren" take things too far, just like thinking Jesus read ONLY from Isaiah 61 in Luke 4 and "hope" when it is defined "faith" and not just limited to simple hope, but is considered confidence more than anything than just simple faith.

    To think that removing the letter "u" in many words is preparation for the anti-christ? That's inline with the thinking one of my supply houses phone number is 761-0666 makes them the supply house of the devil. BTW, I don't deal with them anymore, they ARE full of the devil and the most expensive and least trustworthy.

    I wonder how long before some BB member reports my post as having satanic content with the number "666" in the phone number "T- 6 and counting.
     
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    I love the KJV, but it's this kind of ridiculous thing (number of letters in a word) on the part of some KJVO's that prevents intelligent, civil discussion. Absolutely ridiculous.
     
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    Oh no! That wouldn't be Gaia: Mother Earth?

    I predicted earlier that what was coming
    was some numerical hack against a standard
    lettering: probably the KJV1769 (or is
    that a KJV1762?) for the purpose of numerology
    and/or a Bible coding scheme.

    So now we can wup out our KJV1769s,
    the aledged King James Bible and
    perform prognostication, consult with
    the dead, and other abominations before
    God and man. Sigh! Even so, Come Lord
    Jesus, it is getting to thick down here.

    I am a stranger here within a foriegn land
    My home is far away upon a golden strand
    Ambasadors to be in realms beyond the sea
    And that's my business for my King


    [​IMG]
     
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    First of all what is the importance of the 1769
    Edition?

    Actually if one is a purist to the AV First Edition then we must spell the name Jesus as Iesus.

    HankD
     
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    That is the actual
    "version" used by most of the IFBs in
    the USofA. You know they will insist on
    democracy of determining this :(

    /ed thumbs thru his list of the
    religions of the world - no IFB/
    /ed thumbs thru his list of
    denominations with more than a
    million members - no IFB/
    So much for democracy :(
     
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    I thought "gaol" was the old spelling of "jail"!

    John 3:16, AV 1611- "For God so loued the world, that he gaue his only begotten Sonne: that whosoeuer beleeueth in him, should not perish, but haue euerlasting life."

    Same verse, 1769 Blayney's Edition- "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

    Any spelling changes? Do they make the 1769 edition corrupt?
     
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    TC: "Does anybody else see a problem defending a certain spelling of a word based on numerology systems with questionable roots?"

    During the Tribulation, divination will
    be done by using the KJV1769. The use
    of computers for divination require that
    a common spelling (not just the right WORD
    order but the exact same letters) be established.

    Just think of it, different words, different
    letter order -- the Modern Versions (each of
    which is the Written Word of God because of
    the meaning of the content, not the letter
    order of the content) are staying Satan's
    hand on this earth.

    [​IMG]
     
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    It still is a common spelling for jail on this side of the pond. [​IMG]
     
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    Hey, I was making a joke! :rolleyes:

    Spelling changes are evolutionary in language. And geographical. To wean us from dependency on the UK, Webster tried to formalize "American" English.

    And we still do. I've never heard a single person in Wyoming talking about their cattle herds use the word "kine". Now, some of their "kin" they refer to as cattle . .

    Seriously, some say "Savior = bad" because it (1) has a MISSING LETTER and (2) has SIX LETTERS like 666? Sheer lunacy.

    [cue music from Twilight Zone. Rod Serling's voice resonates . . . "You've now entered the Version Forum . . " ]
     
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    I fail to make the connexion. It is plain that thy (not presuming the familiar) learning hast coulored thy opinions. I am still privy to thy scheme, and I suggest that thou labour fruitfully instead of leading the brethren and their kith into the Slough of Despond. Mayhaps the government art directing thine actions and art even using the theatre to the advantage of the same.

    I have a lorry which ist prepared to cart thee away to thy well-deserved fate, that which is utterly, and without remedy, reserved for thee and thine ilk.
     
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    Christ4Kildare said:

    On this side of the pond, unfortunately, even the lowliest gaol is increasingly called a "correctional facility."
     
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    With all those people buying up all those "Bible Code" books and programs, it's a real possiblity.
     

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