1Tim 2:11&12

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  1. Servent

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    Let the women learn in silence with all subjection.
    But I suffer not a women to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man. but to be in silence.

    Myself I believe Paul is speaking of a church assembly as there was no sunday school then, But I know someone who believes that women should not teach at all. your thoughts.
     
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    The passage says;
    12And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.

    It does not say she cannot teach at all.She is not permitted to teach men. We know women should teach.
    3the older women likewise, that they be reverent in behavior, not slanderers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things-- 4that they admonish the young women to love their husbands, to love their children, 5to be discreet, chaste, homemakers, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be blasphemed.
     
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    I will discuss the practice I am accustomed to. In the church which holds my membership we do have a graded Sunday School. We see this issue as you have stated it, that Paul is speaking of the assembly at large.

    Our Sunday School classes are open to women teachers until young boys become teenagers (young adults).

    We permit women to vote in the regular business meetings provided they meet the standard of being a member in good standing. WE also provide on issues of importance an opportunity for a married brother to request the permission of the body for women to speak on the issue(s) before the body.

    Now, I am involved in a work attempting to organize as a church. IN this work our equivalent to Sunday School is a congregational Bible Study.

    This is probably due to one of two reasons:
    1. we are in the home of one of the believers and have no places available to divide into graded classes.

    2. the congregation prefers to study the Bible in this way.

    As the work there grows I am going to present to this group the opportunity to continue in this way or to make the changes. But I am persuaded this core group are satisfied with the way things are currently operated. I am also. I failed to mention that my home church permits a sister with a testimony to speak as desired with out seeking any permission from the body. I am in agreement with this because the sisters are full members of the family of God and therefore will not be silent in the eternal praise of the Lord.

    This group I am ministering to is in need first of a building and space enough for division into groups to be practical. We have found a building.

    My personal opinion is that the congregational Bible study is best, but I want to present the people with the option and also to make known to them the floor is open to subjects of interest to them. I would like to see this time of Bible study become something they do not always have to listen to only what I want to study but the topics be proposed by members as they wish.

    These are things I will present to the people there, but the decision to act or not to act upon them will ultimately be theirs to make.

    Basically, I am in persuaded this is speaking more in the assembly during preaching services, but I may be wrong and when scripture teaches me different I hope I have enough grace supplied to admit my error.

    Just some of my thoughts.

    Bro. Dallas [​IMG]
     
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    Please excuse my wording I was refering to a mixed sunday school class.
     
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    I could use some help here folks.
     
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    I think in a mixed class women should not be permitted to teach.

    Bro. Dallas
     
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    I believe, according to how I read scripture and am convicted, women are not to teach men or boys over about 13. I can understand a husband and wife team teaching the college kids or even the older teens if it's a mixed class. We've done this before. My husband taught and I took role, added my thoughts, etc. but did not ever teach the class.

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