The Master's Seminary Anyone on this forum a graduate or current student of The Master's Seminary in California? I really like their Doctor of Theology degree program. While I would probably never travel that far to attend a school I do wish more seminaries still offered the ThD. _______________________________ Academic Rant I like the PhD, and the MDiv, however I would love to see a more academic approach. Too many seminaries today are mostly ministry and lack a solid theological academic requirment. In fact, at some schools, it is possible to get a MDiv with very little doctrine/theology/Biblical studies courses (beyond the basic intro courses). I look at some seminaries, which shall remain nameless, and they offer the MDiv in everything from Family Counseling to Student Ministries. However, when it comes to the academic fields (Christian philosophy, apologetics, theology, church history, etc) they are often very, very weak. They may have a MDiv in Biblical studies (if you are lucky). Usually those called into academic ministries are forced to go with the general MDiv and use the electives to get the academic courses (while taking all of the required minstry courses). Take my own school, Liberty, as an example. On or off campus their MDiv concentrations are: Biblical Studies, Church Ministries, Cross Cultural Ministries, Educational Ministries, Evangelism and Church Growth, Leadership, Pastoral Counseling, Pastoral/Preaching, Theology/Apologetics, Worship Studies, or Youth Ministry. Notice that at Liberty there are only two academic programs out of a possible eleven programs(2/11). Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary offers eight MDiv concentrations: Women's Studies, North American Church Planting, International Church Planting, Counseling Ministry, Christian Education, Church Music, General Ministry Track, Advanced Biblical Studies. That means that Southeastern has one program out of eight that is designed for academic purposes. That is pretty bad, however they make up for their failure in the strength of their MDiv/Advanced Biblical Studies (and ThM, PhD degrees). I pick Liberty and Southeastern out as examples, however they actually are doing very good compared to other schools (which shall remain nameless). Why the lack of academic programs? Is there not high enough demand? I am of the belief that pastors and missionaries need more Bible/Theology/Apologetics/Church History than they do ministry courses. So this is not just for academic folks. Sometimes I am afraid that normal seminaries don't offer the right programs for people called into academic ministries (teaching, etc). In Christ, Martin.