2 Services of Different Styles?

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by 12strings, Jun 15, 2012.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. 12strings

    12strings
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2004
    Messages:
    2,743
    Likes Received:
    0
    Is it a good and Biblically sound practice to divide a church into two services based ONLY on the desire to have two different music styles (one Traditional, one Contemporary)? This is assuming there is not a need to do this based on running out of space in the sanctuary, or any reason like that.
     
  2. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    17,023
    Likes Received:
    47
    Would say a better solution would be to do as we do in my church!

    We have rotating worship teams, and each Sunday would be a different style, so same service/same body, justeveryone accepts and tolerates different styles, depending on which team is leading!
     
  3. Ed B

    Ed B
    Expand Collapse
    Member

    Joined:
    May 24, 2010
    Messages:
    302
    Likes Received:
    0
    My church does this and it is partly driven by space as we can’t fit everyone into a single service. The 9:30 service is contemporary in music style with a band and 4 to 6 singers. It seems to appeal to the younger members. The 11:00am service is "blended" with a mixture of hymns and modern songs and it has a full choir, small orchestra, grand piano and pipe organ. This service tends to appeal to the older members but by some people’s standards it would still be seen as contemporary. In both services the senior pastor delivers the same sermon.

    In some ways I think the popularity of the truly contemporary service is a way that Churches across the denomination spectrum have reclaimed those marginal Charismatics who left their former denominations for style rather than doctrinal substance. Whether it was intended for that or not I believe that is one of the effects of bringing contemporary praise bands into non-charismatic churches. But that points to Church music being more entertainment than worship at least for some of those returning Charismatics.
     
    #3 Ed B, Jun 15, 2012
    Last edited by a moderator: Jun 15, 2012
  4. abcgrad94

    abcgrad94
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2007
    Messages:
    5,533
    Likes Received:
    0
    I think it divides the church unnecessarily. Yeshua stated a good alternative.
     
  5. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    17,023
    Likes Received:
    47
    And the young crowd can learn to apperciate the classics, while older folks can learn to worship God "heartily!"
     
  6. OldRegular

    OldRegular
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2004
    Messages:
    22,678
    Likes Received:
    53
    Contemporary: happening, existing, living, or coming into being during the same period of time

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/contemporary

    Given the primary meaning of contemporary can worship be anything other than contemporary? And I don't mean the kind with 7/11 music!
     
  7. SaggyWoman

    SaggyWoman
    Expand Collapse
    Administrator
    Administrator

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2000
    Messages:
    17,933
    Likes Received:
    8
    Why should we be so internally focused that it matters if we do it one way or the other or both ways?
     
  8. preachinjesus

    preachinjesus
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member
    Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2004
    Messages:
    7,406
    Likes Received:
    99
    While we don't call it "contemporary" worship we do use a progressive style of worship in two of our services and a blended style in the other two services.

    It is what works for us and we continue to see growth and people brought into the Kingdom of God.

    Sometimes you need to recognize that as a church grows you will begin to serve different segments of your congregation differently when it comes to worship styles. The NT makes no stand on the style of music you use in worship (granted our services look completely different than theirs) so I don't know how to answer the biblical question. But as for the practical question...works fine for us. :)
     
  9. OldRegular

    OldRegular
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2004
    Messages:
    22,678
    Likes Received:
    53
    God was quite specific about what constitutes worship in the Old Testament. Jesus Christ may have been less specific in His requirements but perhaps they were much more stringent!

    Malachi 3:6. For I am the LORD, I change not;

    John 4:24, God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
     
  10. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    17,023
    Likes Received:
    47
    yes, but God looks at the heart, so a Christian rocker could be in tune with him, while someone singing How Great Thou art might not be!
     
  11. OldRegular

    OldRegular
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2004
    Messages:
    22,678
    Likes Received:
    53
    We are talking about worship and the pagan beat of "rock music" is not worship.
     
  12. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    17,023
    Likes Received:
    47
    So you are saying that there cannot be any christian artists who the lord uses in rock?

    That Alice cooper, Petra etc are not real?
     
  13. 12strings

    12strings
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2004
    Messages:
    2,743
    Likes Received:
    0
    Agreed, a pagan rock beat and a pagan Sousa march beat is not worship.

    But... a beat that has an emphasis on 2 & 4 does not make it less able to be used to Worship God than a beat with the emphasis on 1 & 4. And what do you do when a song is 3/4?
     
  14. Alive in Christ

    Alive in Christ
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2008
    Messages:
    3,822
    Likes Received:
    0
    Alice Cooper is a horrible secular band.

    Petra is a christian band, that plays that style of music.


    Allthough I dont care for the style of petras music, I am glad they are doing what they do.

    I despise rap *music* vehemently...and yet I am glad the rappers are out their doing what they do for Jesus
     
    #14 Alive in Christ, Jun 16, 2012
    Last edited by a moderator: Jun 16, 2012
  15. Alive in Christ

    Alive in Christ
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2008
    Messages:
    3,822
    Likes Received:
    0
    If the folks involved in the music are born again people, and they are doing it for worship...God will except it and anoint it.

    Any beat can be used for worship.
     
    #15 Alive in Christ, Jun 16, 2012
    Last edited by a moderator: Jun 16, 2012
  16. 12strings

    12strings
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2004
    Messages:
    2,743
    Likes Received:
    0
    To all:

    1. If you have experience with dual services: Have you found that your church was able to keep its unity as ONE BODY of believers? I tend to be opposed to this idea because it seems to say to the outside world, "We can't get along regarding the style of music we use well enough for grandparents to worship with thier grandchildren." What does that do to the idea that we are all one in Christ (neither jew nor greek, slave nor free, male nor female)?

    2. If you oppose doing this, by what reasoning do you allow for splitting up other bible studies by age, just not the main worship service?

    3. I understand what contemporary means, but am using the contemporarily accepted definition of contemporary when refering to music styles to refer to worship music that borrows its basic rhythm, instrumentation, and/or ethos from the various forms of soft and hard rock that became popular in the last 60 years.

    4. If you support splitting up services by music style FOR THE PURPOSE OF OUTREACH, has the service then not become something different than primarily a WORSHIP SERVICE?
     
  17. Jerome

    Jerome
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2006
    Messages:
    5,615
    Likes Received:
    44
  18. drfuss

    drfuss
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2005
    Messages:
    1,692
    Likes Received:
    0
    Do you have the same worship leader (song leader) for both services? If so, which type of music is he most comfortable with?

    It seems to me that during the type of service that the worship leader does not prefer, that the congregation could detect that the worship leader was just going through the motions.

    Our church went contempory, although they claim it is a blended service by also playing a traditional hymn to a contempory beat which ruins the worship aspects of the traditional hymn, IMO.

    It has been my observation that those who are really musically inclined, are bothered (irritated) by the other type of music; while those less musically inclined are much less bothered by the other type of music. Or put another way, those who are really musically inclined make the music much more an important part of their worship than those less musically inclined.
     
  19. OldRegular

    OldRegular
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2004
    Messages:
    22,678
    Likes Received:
    53

    You lost me!:smilewinkgrin::sleep: I sing monotone!
     
  20. OldRegular

    OldRegular
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2004
    Messages:
    22,678
    Likes Received:
    53
    Is the except in the above a Freudian slip?

    There are certain people who participate in the bloody sacrifice of the Mass. I am sure some are born again and are doing it for worship. Is the repeated sacrifice of Jesus Christ acceptable to God?
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page

Loading...