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58% Say Release of CIA Memos Endangers National Security

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Revmitchell, Apr 24, 2009.

  1. LeBuick

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    They put him in charge by electing him. You can't vote a guy in office then disown him.
     
  2. LeBuick

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    No sir, Bush and his legacy belong to the ones who voted him into office. You can't disown him after putting him in office. I'm willing to admit I voted for him in 2000 but I learned by the 2004 election. Anyone else want to own up to supporting the worst president in modern history?
     
  3. Pastor Larry

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    It didn't lead to abortion. It was a comment about what people value. On this, it seems that you are on the wrong side.
     
  4. Pastor Larry

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    Carter? Obama may top that, the way he is going. Bush is certainly bad, but not as bad as Carter and he had more to deal with than Carter did.
     
  5. KenH

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    I voted for George W. Bush in 2000 and 2004. I finally gave up on him after it became clear that he wasn't going to start withdrawing from Iraq by the 2006 election.

    The way Barack Obama is going he may very well turn out to be one of the best presidents we have ever had.
     
  6. LeBuick

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    He was who he was when he ran on the Republican ticket. He also had 6 years of a republican house who sent him the legislation to sign. I can't believe how easily the right is tricked by calling them conservatives now that the leader has fallen.

    Now own up and be a man about the disaster that party made of this nation and stop trying to disown your leaders and elected officials. The right needs to take ownership of the mess they created and willingly accept their period of timeout.

    And you can call him Liberal, Liberal and Liberal but it was the Republican brand that carries the stain of his legacy. And no one will let them forget or disown it. Oh, he's yours alright. As ashamed as y'all feel he's yours no doubt about it...
     
  7. KenH

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    Don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen, LeBuick.
     
  8. Pastor Larry

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    Broken promises and $1,000,000,000,000 in extra spending every 90 days while the economy continues to tank? With continued bad management of his staff? Yes, indeed ... one of the best ever.

    Weren't the one who used to post the national debt clock? Will you do that again for us? Let us know how much your man Obama is spending, just like you did with Bush.

    And one other thing ... thought you were going to stay out of these discussions. Is this yet another flip-flop by Ken?
     
  9. LeBuick

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    You can say that but Carter's presidency was sabotaged by the mess Ford handed him. Record inflation, unemployment... again, the Republican's gave him the worst economy since the great depression. Now here it is again, Republican's hading over the worst economy since the great depression. Now that I think of it, the Republican's gave us the great depression.

    Even with all that against his administration, Carter would have been reelected if not for the hostages in Iran and the failed attempts to rescue them. Now I'm not saying Carter was the best but he certainly didn't beat Bush for worst. This guy took a surplus and created record deficit and two wars...
     
  10. LeBuick

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    I know, all of sudden they are the only ones who know what's good for the nation after not doing anything good for 8 years. They have some nerve making noise and giving advice after the mess they made.
     
  11. KenH

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    The federal govenment has no choice at the moment but to spend to get us out of the economic mess that conservatives created during the Bush administration. We cannot afford to allow deflation to take hold like the Hoover administration did in the early 1930s which resulted in the Great Depression.
     
  12. KenH

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    I know, LeBuick. Apparently, the right-wing hate America crowd has no shame. I hope that the ones still left in public office are defeated when they stand for re-election.

    I have seen complainers; however, I have never seen such a big bunch of complainers and gripers in my entire life as the current conservative movement is.
     
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    What broken promises in 90 days and what bad management of staff? Is this noise coming from the guys who brought us torture, two wars and the worst economy since the great depression. Oh, and lets not forget the great depression...

    I too think it's a shame he has to spend to fix the mess the Republican's left behind but that is the reality of it. At least when Obama is done spending we'll have new/improved bridges and roads to show for it. What do we have to show for all the Bush spending?
     
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    It doesn't make him a conservative. Your spin is weak
     
  15. KenH

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    So conservatives voted for a candidate they despised in 2000 and 2004?
     
  16. Revmitchell

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    The left burried us not the right. Freddie and Fannie lead to all of this and not much else. Trying to conflate socialism with capitalism created a train wreck in the banking system. And the recession is a natural part of any economy. It is necessary and will always happen. Trying to avoid it makes it worse. Recessions are not necessarily a result of bad policy but a natural cycle.

    This nation is not in a disaster. Your hyperbole is pure emotion.
     
  17. KenH

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    Conservative policy-inspired unregulated laissez-faire capitalism in the banking and insurance industry led to the current economic mess. Conservatives own this mess regardless of how much they protest this truth.
     
  18. LeBuick

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    It was the conservatives that voted him in.... I think he is theirs...
     
  19. Revmitchell

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    That does not make him conservative. And by the way liberals and moderates voted for him also.
     
  20. KenH

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    People of a variety of political viewpoints and ideologies vote for both of the major party candidates. To deny that George W. Bush was the conservative candidate would be ludicrous.
     
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