I want to start this thread to respond to a couple posters who had responded to my posts and that thread was closed before I could respond. To revmwc: You stated this and used Eph. 2:1: Where did I make Apostle Paul a liar? We were dead in transgressions and sins. Even while we were in that dead state, God made us alive by the quickening of His Spirit. This is being born again, or born from above. How can anybody prevent this birth from above? How? As I told you before, if you die and they perform CPR on you, and resuscitate you, how did you have any say in it? God's quickening power brings life. When life begins, it brings with it both faith and repentance. He gives us the ability to believe, and Jesus stated in John 6:29. Dead people can not respond to it. It takes God quickening them, regenerating them, to make them able to respond to it. It is a cause and effect. God causes life and we respond accordingly. Non, mon ami, non. Faith is produced from life, from the quickening power of the Spirit, from the regenerative power of God. God brings life to the dead, and faith and repentance follow. You are correct here, mon ami. Notice little sentence portions such as in which you were also raised with him through your faith in the working of God, and God made you alive with Christ, and lastly And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross. Every bit of this was by God's working upon man, not man cooperating with Him. God needs no help, no assistance from man as He is saving them. He knows what He is doing, He knows how to do it. Again, mon ami, please show me where I made Apostle Paul a liar. Dead people can not, and will not, respond to the gospel. Go to your local funeral home and preach to them. They are dead naturally, just like sinners are dead spiritually. Why did Jesus say things like "Whoever has ears, let them hear"[Matt. 11:15 & 13:9], "Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Whoever has ears, let them hear.[Matt. 13:43], Then Jesus said, “Whoever has ears to hear, let them hear.'[Mark 4:9], "If anyone has ears to hear, let them hear.”[Mark 4:23], Still other seed fell on good soil. It came up and yielded a crop, a hundred times more than was sown.” When he said this, he called out, “Whoever has ears to hear, let them hear.”[Luke 8:8], It is fit neither for the soil nor for the manure pile; it is thrown out. “Whoever has ears to hear, let them hear.”[Luke 14:34], Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to eat from the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God.[Rev. 2:7], Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. The one who is victorious will not be hurt at all by the second death.[Rev. 2:11], Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who is victorious, I will give some of the hidden manna. I will also give that person a white stone with a new name written on it, known only to the one who receives it.[Rev. 2:17], Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches.[Rev. 2:29], Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches.[Rev. 3:6], Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches.[Rev. 3:13], Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches.[Rev. 3:22], and lastly, Whoever has ears, let them hear.[Rev. 13:9] Now, if only those who have ears to hear with hear, why is that. They have been quickened to life, given a new heart, a new Spirit, and ears to hear with. That is why, mon ami, the dead can not respond to the gospel. They are spiritually dead, and the dead can hear nothing.