Over the last few years, I have come to believe in the five points of Calvinism (for lack of a better term, another thread). Besides reading the Bible, A fellow BB member, Tom Butler has had a great influence in my life over this issue. I was thrown a loop the other day when I heard an unnamed person say to our pastor, "I will go on visitation if you want me to, but people are going to be saved anyhow if they are elect, so I do not put a high priority on it." I grew up in a conservative Presbyterian church (PCA), which approaches 100% belief in "Calvinism" and its 5 points. The local church has a very aggressive visitation program, and the presbytery and general assembly spend millions of dollars each year supporting missionaries. My question is this. Where did the notion come from that Calvinism and not being interested in visitation, missions, or evangelism are linked? One has nothing to do with the other. The Presbyterian church certainly does not believe that, and God's sovereignty is one of their bedrock beliefs. It is our job to tell others about the Gospel. It is God's business how He uses it and who He uses it on. To me, it seems the height of laziness or a lack of understanding the Scriptures to think everything is in autopilot, while we waste away in a pew. Thanks for your input, and this is NOT a free will-Calvinist debate.