A One-Woman Wrecking Crew

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  1. Rippon

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    This morning, around 8:55, I passed by a restaurant which was being razed by a pscho-woman. She was an angry drunk, about 28 years of age. She was overturning tables and smashing everything she could get her hands on. She was also intimidating the waitresses and other staff members.

    I did my best to keep her from doing any more damage -- but I was only slightly successful.

    Once she came out of the restaurant I blocked the door with my arm while avoiding her wild swings.

    It's strange. In South Korea when something like this happens a crowd appears and just looks on as if it's a movie set. I had to cajole a man in his mid-20's to assist me. About 20 people were just gawking.

    The police finally came about 9:30. I told them to cuff her. But they ignored me. The woman just went back in the place and caused more damage. The cops only tried to talk with her at first. After a lot more broken glass they finally cuffed her. But she put up quite a fight anyway by kicking both propery and people. It should be on an episode of Cops.

    The police took my name and number. But the restaurant staff explained that I was helpful. The late-arriving owner thanked me and gave me a low bow.

    It's kind of risky for a foreigner to intercede in these kinds of altercations. White guys like myself have tried to help women who were being publicly battered by men --- only to be on the receiving end of an attack by both parties. And then police could arrest the foreigner for assault.

    Just another report from the land of morning calm.
     
  2. donnA

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    I'm afraid peoples response is pretty much the same here. I wonder, most people are simply afraid possible, or do not think they have any responsibility.
     
  3. matt wade

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    People have given up caring unless it affects their person or their stuff. Used to be that people took pride in their own neighborhood and would keep things clean and orderly. Now thugs do whatever they want because people think their responsibility ends at their yard. People think I'm a wacko because I'll tell the neighborhood kids that do stupid stuff not to do it, and I'll actually go and talk to their parents.

    When I was a kid I was afraid to do a lot of dumb stuff because someone might tell my parents. Kids now don't fear that, because they know no one is going to tell.
     
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    I knew if I did bad stuff I was getting tore up, someone was telling my mom.
    Why do people think their responsibliity only goes as far as their personal space. Used to peole took responsiblity for themselves and others around them. What if someone needed help(accident or medical), would they stand and watch?
     
  5. matt wade

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    Many people would stand and watch. Our society has become a bunch of self-centered fools that think everything should be handed to them on a silver platter without any work or effort on their part.
     
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    For many, it's not so much a matter of not feeling any responsibility as the fear of getting sued.
    When we're stupid enough that we need a Good Samaritan Law to protect those that do what they should, whaddya expect? I'm certainly not gonna go out of my way to help someone and put myself in danger of being sued. There have been a few instances where kids are involved and I jumped in because I could not stand by, but when it's adults, forget it. It's not worth the risk of getting sued.
     
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    That's a poor excuse for not helping people in need. Do you really think that a person that is going to sue you because you helped them is the norm? In 99% of of cases you will get nothing but thanks. You've illustrated exactly why our society is becoming such an anti-social, self-centered place.
     
  8. donnA

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    not a good excuse, but probably true.
     
  9. Gina B

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    Then I don't want to risk the 1% chance (on the odd chance that you're correct on that percentage, which is highly doubtful) that my kids will be homeless because I helped someone and they sued me. If that offends you, then oh well! I used to have malpractice insurance and know exactly the reason why it's so needed. It can actually be rather stupid to help unless you know what you're doing...some people do a lot more harm than good while trying to do the right thing. That's why we have 911 and ambulances and police officers...they are trained to deal with emergencies.

    Why our society is becoming so anti-social and self-centered isn't because people like me don't want to get sued. It's a variety of reasons, such as people worshiping money instead of God, plain stupidity in our legal system, the over-replacement of humans by machines, the isolation people put themselves in by getting addicted to television and computer interaction rather than face to face, and so on and so forth.



    So, you've thus far called me selfish, and blamed me for societal ills. Wow, I'm powerful, huh?

    Are you having a bad day or is this typical behavior for you? Please let me know. I'm always willing to give people second chances, but if I'd be wasting my time in conversing with you on other issues on this board, please let me know and I'll avoid further interaction.
     
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    Nope...not having a bad day. It's a different day and I still think it is a very selfish attitude to say things like, "I'm certainly not gonna go out of my way to help someone and put myself in danger of being sued."

    So, go ahead and avoid me in the future. If I'm headed down the road and see you in some sort of need, I'll help you out. If I'm in need I'll expect you to ignore me on the off chance I might sue you.
     
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    As a person with 30 years police experience I strongly recommend avoiding contact with wild drunks and crazies, especially when you are in a foreign country. If you are a black belt in something, that's a different matter.
     
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    As I said in my OP -- it is risky. But I felt it was the right thing to do under the circumstances.

    Having a black belt or not doesn't enter into the equation.

    I'm not going to stand by when someone is doing such things and no one else is helping.
     
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    Please post a pic so I can recognize who I'm ignoring. I'll at least wave before I pass you on by. :wavey:
     
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    It is not always safe for a person to stop along side of roadway, but we can always dial 9-1-1 from a safe distance. (or 9-9-9 abroad).

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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