A Pastoral Letter to White Americans

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  1. Zaac

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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jim-wallis/a-pastoral-letter-to-whit_b_6315396.html

    Long but a good read.
     
  2. righteousdude2

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    Seriously ..... how many black men are killed each year by cops?

    How many black men have gunds or knifes when killed by cops?

    How many black men do not have any kind of weapon .... and are killed by another black man?

    Give me some numbers to referrence Zaac, and then we'll see if this is as out of control as those protesting want us to believe.
     
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    Seriously, if you want to know, look it up.

    How many don't?

    How many white men do not have any kind of weapon and are killed by another white man?

    White people kill white people. Black people kill black people. Chinese people kill Chinese people. Hispanics kill Hispanics.

    Point being, the red herring has nothing to do with cops killing unarmed black men.

    This is perhaps part of the problem that so many in the black community have with white folks and their prejudices that they refuse to see. If it was to denigrate them and complain about them being so much more violent or so many more times likely to be murderers, some of yall could quickly find "statistics" that you think supports your point of view.

    But part of the white privilege narrative that we refuse to accept is that some of us really don't care. For if you did, you'd look up the statistics yourself because that's what we do when something matters to us.

    So pull yourself out of the fake concern mode and look it up if it means a hill of beans to ya.

    Like the guy said. Stop talking so much and listen for a change.

    The right never listens to anything that the black community says and they know this. They know that the response is always going to be the GOP narrative of if they would just behave, or if they would just respect the cops, or if they cared more for their communities, or if there were fathers raising their kids, or if they took responsibility and stopped blaming everybody else.

    They've heard it all before and are aware that it means just what they believe: the right isn't listening and doesn't really care because white privilege has blinded them . If Blacks are experiencing this everyday and you go into white neighborhoods and the same sort of treatment isn't taking place, then Houston, we have a problem.

    And now the world knows it. And that's why you've got black, white, yellow, and every other color skin around the globe protesting.

    The genie is out of the bottle. ANd now the world knows it. Don't feign outrage about the senseless killing of the unborn and think it's gonna mean squat to anyone when they see just how little, if at all, the Rev Mitchells, and the carpros, and the righteousdudes, and the Oldregulars, and the church mouse guys, and the just want peaces of the evangelical political right cares about those outside the womb.
     
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    Sounds like a reasonable request.

    Or is it the facts will get in the way of opinion.

    BTW, I did post some actual facts previously -....
     
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    I'll be honest, I read right up to the two lines that said an unarmed teenager shot, and a man choked to death. The very wording was biased, and sensationalist. Was going to read the whole thing, but when I saw those words, I knew I didn't have to.
     
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    Yep. First paragraph is enough to understand the point.
     
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    Also interested.
     
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    Guys Zaac has revealed himself as an extremist with some very troubling posts. You really need to leave him alone. I suspect he will not be around much longer should he persist.
     
  9. Zaac

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    And thus the deterioration of race relations. Blacks attempt to tell you what their experience is, and we say "I don't want to hear it" or something else that amounts to I'm not going to listen to anything you have to say unless it's what I want to hear you say, or you're not due the respect of me really listening to you.

    But then we wonder why a lot of Blacks insist that there is systemic racial prejudice. I think you just demonstrated perfectly why Blacks speak of white privilege and systemic racial prejudice and flat out racism.

    If it's anything but the narrative that the majority wants to hear, it's discounted and pushed to the side as though their reality just doesn't matter or at least doesn't deserve the time of day.
     
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    Pure foolishness and the mindset of folks who wouldn't think it was an epidemic unless their sons and daughters were the ones getting shot and killed.

    So lets reverse the trend and 5, 50 or 500 unarmed white people start getting killed every year. Let's let the police start driving up in white suburbia and shooting kids with air soft guns cause there's certainly a lot of them.

    It's not a reasonable request. It's a reasonable, white privileged excuse to say again "Oh we political conservatives value the life of the unborn, but you can kill 4 or 500 black people, and we simply don't think that's out of control".

    But now it's on display for the whole world to see.
     
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    Zaac- Why not simply cite some statistics? You do not help your case by dancing around it.
     
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    This is the worst piece of crap I've had the displeasure of reading.

    This is as bad as the time you added to Christ's words on the cross.

    To my permanent killfile with you.
     
  13. Zaac

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    Rolf, I'm not trying to make a case for the statistics. I'm pointing to the fact that a lot of white people tend to not listen to what black people are saying when it comes to race.

    What statistics are gonna mean anything if people aren't even willing to admit the reality of what Blacks feel they are experiencing?

    If I said 1000 a year, some would claim that to hardly be out of control.
    If I said more blacks have been killed by police than all of the Jim Crow lynchings, excuses would be made.

    No amount of statistics is going to mean anything to a lot of white people because it's not their sons and husbands being shot and left to lie in the street like a dog.

    Remember how quickly white America responded when the knockout game was targeting Whites? That's kinda how Blacks feel about the police.

    No matter what the reality of Blacks is, there are those who are gonna contend that it's all on them and that systemic racial prejudices and racism has nothing to do with it.

    So statistics are futile. This is about people not listening. I read an essay the other day and it really explained the dynamic well.

     
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    Hallelujah. I don't have to see any more of your comments. Yippeee!!!:wavey:
     
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    You cannot reason with hatred.
     
  16. Zaac

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    Spoken like one of those true liberal gay folks the political right is always complaining about because they complain about "hate".

    Pretty consistent of folks who don't listen.
     
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    Yup. Typical hate-whitey crap from the ill-informed, hyper racial bait "it's your fault" crowd.

    Total crap. Some folks can lie with such a straight face it is horrifying.
     
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    I read the whole thing. Twice.

    I listened.

    I felt it was biased.

    Why do I need to stop talking because I'm white? Why must I stop saying that I am not a racist because I am white?

    Because I am talking does not mean that I don't listen.

    Because I listen doesn't forbid me from talking.

    Yes, everyone has a story. Everyone should be heard.

    But those who speak must speak the truth - painful, hard to hear, or not - and it must be without sensation, bias, or with an intent to incite.
     
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    Zaac, you couldn't be more wrong. It's not "This isn't what I want to hear", it's "This guy is so biased that he won't listen to reason."



    Whoever wrote that piece used wordings that were intentionally inflammatory, and painted a false picture. In fact, he outright ignored fact and lied.



    How are you supposed to reason with someone who isn't interested in a two-way discussion?
     
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    Amen, SW. Amen. :thumbsup:

    The O/P is a load.
     

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