a place my mom's church supports being shut down by the government

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  1. questdriven

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    My mom's church supported a home called Camp Tracy. I remember when I still went to that church a couple of times some of the girls had come over and gave testimonies and sang songs.
    It's a home for difficult children, basically. They get schooling while there and they work on the farm. It's an option for parents who can't handle their children, basically, and I guess they try to teach them the error of their ways. My dad threatened to send me there or somewhere like it a time or two when I was a teenager.

    Now I don't know anything else about it other than what my mom told me, but she says the government is shutting it down because it says the camp can't make the children work or teach them the Bible.

    If that is true, it's just stupid. Children need a good work ethic instilled in them, and I wish I hadn't been so lazy and keen to get out of work as a kid! It makes things a lot harder now that I'm an adult.

    But then I also did an internet search to see if I could find any news articles on this, and I found some claiming there was sexual abuse going on there...
    But IDK. Sheesh, anything can be claimed on the internet. Especially on a discussion forum, like anything I found specifically about this camp was. (I saw that someone also posted in one of those threads saying he had been there for a couple years and the sexual abuse cases were made up by some of the boys there so they could leave and that essentially what everyone else was saying is false, too. Hm, interesting. But again, anything can be claimed on the internet.)
    They also claimed that the place is a cult and the children don't get schooled while there, and I know that's not true. They don't attend a public school, but from what I've been heard from children who have been there, they are made to study a curriculum; essentially, they are homeschooled.
     
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    I don't know. I'm not involved enough with them, especially not these days, to know these things.
     
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    Well, just be sure to pass the info onto your mom
     
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    Here's the website for them http://www.camptracey.org/index.html

    There's not much on it that is up to date. The archival newsletters are almost 3 years old. There are some older news items about issues they have had.
     
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    Other than the one Jacksonville newspaper article, I didn't find anything online about allegations of abuse or other stuff mentioned in the OP. Doesn't seem like the camp is particularly active in its ministry anymore, either.
     
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    So what was the point of this thread?
     
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    I know they were in use last year when I still attended my old church. I THINK it's run by an elderly couple, so I wouldn't expect them to have much of an online presence anyway.
    My mom found out what was happening only when she called them recently.
     
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    My question is this: Does the camp receive government funding? If so, it is most likely not so much that the government is shutting them down but that the government will not continue funding a camp that teaches a particular religion and has the kids work. But I would guess that they can run the camp independently without government funding.
     
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    I believe it's also a church, so it does have a tax exempt status. But other than that, I don't know.
     
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    The issue is whether they get tax dollars. If the government is involved at all, they have a say. That's why I don't ever want the school districts involved in my homeschooling other than what the law says. Once they are in, you're sunk. :(
     
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    I looked at it and tried to do some google investigation as well but I don't know if they get any aid from the government. It's $700 a month for each child at the camp and knowing how the camp runs that I work at, there's no way we could have a kid there for just $700 a month. They might get the remainder in donations but then again, it could be grants (or education money per child).
     
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    They need to state it up front in their work and upon giving tours before placement is decided.
     

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