I posted another thread which didn't exactly go over well. I was accused of being motivated by pride. That was not my intent. Please answer this: If there is a clear teaching in the Bible. One that is obvious. If there are Christians that do not believe in this doctrine, why do they not? I thoght there were at least three possible reason why. 1. They are just unstudied, new Christians etc. Most of us fall into this category because none of us has studied enough to fully understand the Bible so I am sure we are all guilty of this in some way. 2. They are dishonest. They fight against a particular doctrine they do not like. We all still have a sin nature, even after salvation and many of us may resist doctrines that we do not like 3. They are not even saved. This is a possibility that must be considered. The natural man can't know the things of God. There are those that proclaim false doctrine because they are not even saved. THey are in the natural mind. Do any of you find a fault with this? Forget which doctrine, choose any doctrine that YOU believe and match it up with this.