A Tie Helps Senator Obama

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  1. KenH

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    Senator Obama will win NC easily.

    Senator Clinton will win IN comfortably.

    Senator Obama has clearly stopped his slide and now there aren't very many delegates left to be elected.

    So when the primaries/caucuses finish up on June 3 Senator Obama will easily have more elected delegates and more popular vote. It looks like unless something catastrophic introduces itself into the campaign that Senator Obama will win the Democratic Party presidential nomination.
     
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    Yep. I'm ready for the rapture.
     
  3. KenH

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    I can just see the bumper sticker.

    "Make the rapture a reality. Vote for Senator Obama!"

    :laugh:
     
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    VOTE Obama if You're Rapture Ready!

    I heard Limbagh was encouraging folks in In to go vote for Hillary. Is that true? Is the republicans so scared of Obama they would try this tactic?
     
  5. KenH

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    Obviously "Operation Chaos" didn't work in NC. And IN was favorable to Senator Clinton demographically anyway.
     
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    It looks like in this case, the tie goes to Obama! :thumbs:
     
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    It isnt about being afraid of particularly either one. It is about keeping both of them alive as long as possible.
     
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    Actually, The CINCKAOS gave a special dispensation to some republicans, beacuse there were several inportant primiaries for state offices
     
  9. KenH

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    I may have spoken too soon. With 75% of the IN vote in the race is not "too early to call" but now "too close to call".

    However, the Senator Obama staff thinks that he will fall just short of a win in IN. But a narrow win will be rather deflating to Senator Clinton after being blown out in NC.
     
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    Looks like, in spite of Limbaugh's underhanded tactics, Obama will pretty much secure the nomination tonight. At least I hope so!
     
  11. KenH

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    The talk is that after Senator Obama sews up the majority of the elected delegates on May 20 that he will make a deal with Senator Clinton for seating the Michigan and Florida delegations, and that he will help her pay off her campaign debt.

    I think we now see the endgame of this race coming into view.
     
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    Isn't what he suggested voter fraud?
     
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    Rush Limbaugh simply did that to get the news media to talk about him. It is clear tonight that it didn't help Senator Clinton. In fact, in looking at the numbers, the Republicans that voted in the IN Democratic primary voted 52%-48% for Senator Clinton which is almost identical percentage-wise to the rest of the voters in the Democratic primary.

    By the way, the 14% of the votes left to count in IN are from a heavily African-American area of IN. If the turnout was high enough in that area, then Senator Obama might just win IN by a few hundred to a few thousand votes.
     
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    I find it interesting that around a quarter of the voters in Republican primaries in NC and IN voted for someone other than Senator McCain.
     
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    It is your right to cast your vote for whom ever and for whatever reasons you choose: If you have the right to vote it is not fraudelent how you cast it.

    In my estimation; a vote counts for the person for which it is cast: a vote also counts as a measure of agreement between that person's platform and policies and the voter: Therefore, in as much as I am able, I vote my conscience:

    Those who vote deceitfully (using their vote to manipulate elections) aren't being fraudulent.... just foolish in selling the power of their vote and the influence of their voice of representation for a bowl of porridge. Limeball is not a leader: He's a drug adicted talking head for the neo-cons and is a poor substitute for true conservatism in government: He is a perpetuator of RINO's and limits his discussions to beating dead horses and refuses real issues..... issues like Ron Paul addressses but the other candidates avoid.
     
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    Your statement is true in the general election but in the primary, a party specific election this is called crossover voting and is illegal. More importantly he is thumbing his nose at the democratic process and is making knull the votes of honest citizens.

    http://www.alternet.org/democracy/80392/

     
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    Good luck enforcing that.
     
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    It also shows Rush doesn't have the loyalty of his listeners. Where 52% voted as he requested to extend the primary 48% did the exact opposite.

    I think this should also send a message to the super delegates. Hillary had votes from Republicans who would never vote for her in the general election yet she still won by a narrow margin. I don't know about her theory "I can carry the big states". It might be true she can carry them against another democratic candidate but the polls show either can carry them against a republican. I think the party should ask her to pull the plug on her run for the White House. I think they fear loosing women over 45 and the middle class, gun toten whites... :)
     
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    I didn't say it would be enforced I was just pointing out what he is suggesting republicans do is illegal.

    I think it has more to do with dishonestly being elected leader of the free world.
     
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    That is how John McCain did so well in Fl., the Dems voted for him this time as well as last time. Some claim that across the country in primary elections that McCain has had a lot of help from the Dems. Many have been know to change their parity so they could help their party win in the general election by helping a weaker person win the other party election. Some states allow cross over voters, as well. So many have been playing this game for years, I don't care for it but they didn't ask me.
     

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