Abortion is Big Business

Helen, thanks for the good info.

Well, I guess Mr. Bush will speak on this at any moment now. Seeing as how he was supported by Christians as a pro-life candidate and all.

It will be interesting to see how and when, leading up to his next campaign, he will throw a few insignificant bones to the pro-life Christians...and even more interesting (to avoid a more negative term) to see how cheap their votes will be. I'll bet he's counting on a real discount.

All those dead little ones do make good campaign material, ya know.

 

Still no word from the President.

OK, can we now admit that he doesn't care one whit about the plight of the innocent unborn?

 

Still no word from the President.

I don't recall there having been an issue that's come up during his term that has required him to speak on the subject.

I do recall him saying during the election that he was pro-life. I don't expect him to make any statements aboyut this until required.

 

So, milions of innocent lives snuffed out annually, and the President just remains silent because "nobody asked him"?

Did anybody ask him to make absolutely massive increases to the federal budget, over and above the "war" on terrorism?

Did anyone ask him to make the biggest steps yet to federalizing education, with its attendant spending and controls?

Did anyone ask him to get us back into UNESCO, which Reagan had the wisdom to get us out of, and even Bill Clinton apparently did not want to get us back into?

Should we revise the parable of the Good Samaritan, and have Jesus excuse the first two because the poor beaten man "didn't ask for help"?

As you pointed out, the man claimed to be pro-life...what a hypocrite! Smart, though, he gets the votes of gullible Christians who hang their hat on anything Republican, and no opposition from the baby-killing industry, because they know that he will do nothing to hurt their bloody trade.

As the count rises...

 

I know you're gonna take issue with this, but believe it or not, we have bigger issues in the country right now that the abortion issue. There. I said it. Many of us think it, but few will say it, for fear of getting bashed on by others on the board.

The reality of the presidency is, narry a moment of his time goes unaccounted for. The man can't use the predidential potty without it negatively impacting something. So we shouldn't get all bent out of shape because the president has other priorities that don't line up with our schedules.

If you feel you can do a better job, you're free to run for the office.

 

First of all, I don't have the resources or connections to run for President. Second, I think it would be over my head, except if God led me to do it and worked through me. He hasn't so led at this point. GW Bush, on the other hand, insisted on running, and unfortunately the Republican party propelled him through the ranks into the white house. Therefore he is responsible, regardless of my qualifications or anyone else's.

Second, what are higher priorities that abortion?

Certainly not the war on terror...very important, but there were fewer Americans killed in the Sept. 11th terror attacks than there will be today in abortion clinics. Then multiply that by 365. No, 355, abortionists enjoy holidays just like the rest of us.

The budget? Well, I wish he did nothing with that, every time he touches it he spends money at a rate that would embarass the Clintons. And even if he were doing a good job with it, it hardly compares with the bloodshed of abortion.

Education? Ditto.

Homeland security? Being used as an excuse to erode constitutional rights in ways that otherwise would be unthinkable.

The Presidency can be (and often is) used to set the pace for issues and directions on many fronts. It's sometimes called the "bully pulpit". Do you really think that if GW Bush had a heart for the poor innocent ones that are led to slaughter every day (or was disgusted in the traffic in their body parts for profit which is the topic of this post), he couldn't find ten minutes a month to say so? I don't, and I think that it is reprehensible.

 

Like I said, I knew you'd take issue with it.

 

If you gentlemen will stop and think for a moment, you are both saying what you are saying because you know human life is sacred, whether as victims of abortions or victims of terrorism.

I have a suggestion -- understand that God has put certain things on your individual hearts for a reason, and that the reason is not to fight with each other about which one is more important.

And the reason God has put certain things on your hearts is that He has something for you to do in regard to them. Probably not hassle it out on this forum. Is there someone to talk to? Someone to help? A letter to write? Please stop for a moment, take some time out, pray, and ask God to show you what HE wants you to do about what He has laid in your hearts as important.

Thank you.

 

(I yield to Helen's wisdom and acquiesce.)

 

Helen, first of all thanks for your contribution to this thread, you have made very good points.

I am not one to display my battle scars, and do not intend to brag, for I have not done all that I can. But, I promise you that the time that I have spent on this on the BB is a drop in the bucket from the perspective of both time and substance.

The reason that I post on it here is that it is a very lonely fight, when you really take action and DO something. And that's the sad part. So, I try to challenge others to STOP ACCEPTING MEDIOCRITY, APATHY, OR IN THE CASE OF OUR PRESIDENT AND THOSE LIKE HIM, STOP SUPPORTING THOSE WHO WANT NOTHING MORE THAN YOUR VOTE AND THE POWER THAT IT GIVES THEM.

I will keep plugging along regardless, but is indeed discouraging to see hard work brought to nothing because so many are either inactive, or aid the culture of death by supporting those who are, after all, on the other side.

My point is not to bicker about "what is most important", but on the other hand, giving the President a free pass by saying that he's "too busy" to worry about a mere few million murders a year is, I think, a dangerous fantasy.

Do we really understand that abortion is the murder of a fellow human being, a baby, or has it become a mere political issue?

 

No, Jim, it's very personal. All six of my children "should" have been aborted. Obviously none was!

But I think you will not find effectiveness in this particular issue goes from the top down, but rather from the bottom up. Helping out with crisis pregnancy centers, being there (if you are married!) to give a home to pregnant young women with nowhere to go, and, if you are young enough, offering to adopt if a mother will let her baby live.

Don't worry if it feels like you are fighting alone. You aren't. But remember we are the salt of the earth? Salt gets sprinkled, not poured, right?

Just flavor your area. That is where God has put you. I used to think that was nothing. Then God showed me a little of the effect our family had had on some others. It was a really good feeling to know that I wasn't as useless as I had thought.

 

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[ October 15, 2002, 09:50 PM: Message edited by: Pennsylvania Jim ]

 

Helen, God bless you for your deeds. I hope I didn't come across sounding defeated, that's not the case...I LOVE "working in the trenches". And, I agree with you as to the absolute necessity to work right where we are. Again, I've been there (for many years) and plan to stay there.

But, I disagree with you that the other half (top down) is so much less important. Name one free and Godly society that has a Godless government. And we have the blessing of being born in a nation where WE are responsible for the government. Therein lies my complaint, and the point that I spend time here trying to make...Christians have done/are doing a miserable job looking after our gov't, and IMO ignorance reigns far too often.

 

I'm going to start a new thread on the government issue. Please join in. I want to see what others think, too, OK?

God bless.

 

Go for it, see ya there!