ACORN is dishonest?

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  1. ajg1959

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    I liked the part where it says they registered the roster of the Dallas Cowboys, who dont even live in Nevada.

    Libs are getting desperate aint they?

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    I would really like to see more about ACORN covered in the media. Besides the Vegas bust on illegal voter registration they have also been convicted in other states.

    I have seen ACORN in action in the past and they were the most despicable group of people I had ever witnessed. The came to protest President Bush. The descended a yellow bus, their leader shouting through a megaphone. They marched around, members yelling profanities to us (President Bush supporters). They even burned the American Flag. The police had to come and protect the nice families that had come to show their support for our President.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,431061,00.html

    1. Did ACORN receive any money from the bailout that passed?

    2. What other states have had ACORN fraud?
    3. What connection does Obama have with ACORN?

    4. Was ACORN partly to blame for the financial crisis that we now face?
     
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    Which Cowboy changed their mind... :laugh: :wavey:

    The good news for Obama is he has 264 electorals without any of the states where ACORN has been active.
     
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    since I am a 23 year employee of a police department, I will say this: Anyone who goes around picking up the homeless and the street drunks and taking them in to register and vote should be convicted of racketeering.
     
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    Wow...just saw this in the news. Here is another case of fraud against ACORN. Somebody should shut them down ASAP!

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081009/ap_on_el_ge/voter_fraud

     
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    He does not have any votes yet.

    A couple of more raids like the last two, and it will call into question any vicdtory that might be won.
     
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    Good correction, who was that guy that ran for governor of CA (I think) who was way up in the polls yet lost the election. The rumor was many whites changed their minds once they get behind the curtain and couldn't bring themselves to actually vote for a black.
     
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    That is so true. Remember the gay marriage ban vote a couple of years ago in oregon that made national headlines?

    The polls showed that oregonians supported gay marriage and would defeat the ban proposal. Even the exit polls showed that it had been defeated, But low and behold, when they actually counted the votes, it passed by a wide margin.

    Sometimes, people say one thing, to try to be politically correct, but then vote differently.

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    Just one more dishonest association that Obama is tied to.
     
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    Dishonest? How about corrupt, it is a little more accurate.
     
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    Come on LeBuick...you are too smart to fall for this lefty talking point of the race card being played.
    I have no doubt some folks will vote for Obama simply b/c he is black, and some will not vote for him for the same reason...but not enough to sway the election as being racially motivated. If Obama loses it is b/c of his radical policies, not his skin color.
     
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    THis is a setup--a fall-back position.

    It gives the Obama campaign an answer if the unthinkable happens.

    You see...in the minds of some, it is not possible that I might choose to vote against Obama because I think he's a terrible candidate.

    But, the "truth" will be that if I vote for anyone other than Obama, there is only one reason--race.

    This has been hinted at by some in the mainstream media--and you'll see it more and more (particularly if the election's tight, which I doubt it will be).


    If that tactic is employed by Obama hardcore supporters, some of the more radical press folk, or the handful of racists that speak out--I find it to be despicable.
     
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    And if Obama and his press try to push this too hard, it could produce a backlash and cost him the election. Most people hate being told they are racist when in fact they are not.
     
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    More ACORN Fraud--our nation is being stolen!

    Is ACORN Stealing The Election?

    By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Wednesday, October 08, 2008 4:20 PM PT
    Election Fraud: A radical group Barack Obama used to work for is committing voter-registration fraud in several states, ahead of the election. What does Obama know about this scam?

    It's a legitimate question to raise now that the FBI has raided the offices of the nonprofit Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now in Nevada and North Carolina, two states where Obama and John McCain are running neck-and-neck. ACORN has registered bogus voters in both states.

    The group's voter-registration fraud is rampant, and authorities plan a nationwide sweep of ACORN offices to collect records.
    In Nevada, state officials say the fraudulent registrations included forms for the starting lineup of the Dallas Cowboys football team, including quarterback Tony Romo.

    "Romo is not registered to vote in the state of Nevada," Secretary of State Ross Miller said, "and anybody trying to pose as Terrell Owens won't be able to cast a ballot on Nov. 4."

    While those names will be flagged on Election Day, felonious voters may have better luck using other cutouts. Nevada, along with several other key battleground states, requires no ID to vote.

    In North Carolina, where Obama has been running nonstop ads, ACORN has registered a record number of new voters, many of them suspicious. Statewide, Democrats are doing better than the GOP in new converts — even in traditionally Republican counties.

    There have been 218,749 newly registered Democrats in North Carolina since January — more than five times the 38,337 new Republicans, state records show.

    The numbers show a startlingly close political battle even in Republican-dominated Union County, with 4,233 new voters registering as Democrats and 4,362 as Republicans. In previous election years, new Republicans have outnumbered Democrats 2-to-1 in the fast-growing Charlotte-area county.

    In Missouri, one ACORN registrant named Monica Rays showed up on no less than eight forms, all bearing the same signature.
    Suspicious election officials sent letters to some 5,000 ACORN registrants in St. Louis, asking the letter recipients to contact them.
    Fewer than 40 reponded.

    In Kansas City, 15,000 registrations have been questioned, and last year four ACORN employees were indicted for fraud.
    In addition, ACORN officials have also been indicted in Wisconsin and Colorado. Investigations against others are active in Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania and Tennessee.

    ACORN has also been registering convicted felons — including inmates — in Florida and other battleground states. ACORN boasts registering a record 1.5 million new voters so far this election.

    What does all this have to do with Obama, besides the fact that he'd be the beneficiary of most, if not all, of these new votes?
    For starters, Obama paid ACORN, which has endorsed him for president, $800,000 to register new voters, payments his campaign failed to accurately report. (They were disguised in his FEC disclosure as payments to a front group called Citizen Services Inc. for "advance work.")
    What's more, Obama worked as executive director of ACORN's voter-registration arm, Project Vote, in 1992. Joined by two other community organizers on Chicago's South Side, Obama conducted the voter-registration drive that helped elect Carol Moseley-Braun to the Senate that year.

    The next year, 1993, Obama joined the civil-rights law firm Davis Miner Barnhill & Galland, where he sued the state of Illinois on behalf of ACORN to implement the federal "Motor Voter" law, which the GOP governor at the time refused to do. Then-Gov. Jim Edgar argued, presciently, that the Clinton law would invite voter fraud.

    Obama downplays his ties to ACORN, and his campaign denies coordinating with ACORN to register voters.

    Meantime, New Orleans-based ACORN maintains that it has no control over volunteers who are falsifying application forms, that they're like employees who steal from the store.

    But the fraud is widespread and not isolated. It also turns out that some ACORN execs allegedly are involved in a $1 million embezzlement cover-up at their headquarters. Representing them in the case is none other than Michelle Obama's old law firm in Chicago.

    ACORN's corruption is not just out in the field, as they claim. There's a pattern of corruption from the top down.

    McCain would be wise to start preparing a challenge to voter registration rolls should he lose the race in a close contest. He'd be crazy not to contest the results in light of these events.
     
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    NUTS!
    HOW ACORN GOT ME INTO VOTE SCAM
    By JEANE MacINTOSH, Post Correspondent

    Last updated: 8:01 am
    October 9, 2008
    Posted: 4:31 am
    October 9, 2008
    CLEVELAND -

    Two Ohio voters, including Domino's pizza worker Christopher Barkley , claimed yesterday that they were hounded by the community-activist group ACORN to register to vote several times, even though they made it clear they'd already signed up.


    Barkley estimated he'd registered to vote "10 to 15" times after canvassers for ACORN, whose political wing has endorsed Barack Obama, relentlessly pursued him and others.

    Claims such as his have sparked election officials to probe ACORN.
    "I kept getting approached by folks who asked me to register," Barkley said. "They'd ask me if I was registered. I'd say yes, and they'd ask me to do it [register] again.


    "Some of them were getting paid to collect names. That was their sob story, and I bought it," he said.

    Barkley is one of at least three people who have been subpoenaed by the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections as part of a wider inquiry into possible voter fraud by ACORN. The group seeks to register low-income voters, who skew overwhelmingly Democratic.

    "You can tell them you're registered as many times as you want - they do not care," said Lateala Goins, 21, who was subpoenaed.

    "They will follow you to the buses, they will follow you home, it does not matter," she told The Post.

    She added that she never put down an address on any of the registration forms, just her name.

    A third subpoenaed voter, Freddie Johnson, 19, filled out registration cards 72 times over 18 months, officials said.

    "It feeds the public perception that there could be [fraud], and that makes the pillars fall down," said local Board of Elections President Jeff Hastings.

    Registering under a fake name is illegal. But officials usually catch multiple registrations and toss them.

    The major risk of fraud growing out of mass canvassing involves the possibility of ineligible voters filing absentee ballots, and thus avoiding checks at polling places, said Republican National Committee chief counsel Sean Cairncross.

    The subpoenas come as Republicans have ramped up criticism of ACORN. Officials in Nevada raided ACORN's Las Vegas office Tuesday, accusing the group of signing people up multiple times - in some cases under phony names, like those of Dallas Cowboys.

    ACORN's Cleveland spokesman, Kris Harsh, said his group collected 100,000 voter-registration cards; only about 50 were questionable, he claimed.

    As for workers, "We watch them like a hawk," he said.
     
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    Will we need to have Jimmy Carter and a delegation from the UN oversee the election?

    Does not ACORN receive some funding from the Federal Government? If yes, it needs to be stopped immediately!
     
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    Just as he does his relationship with assorted crooks , subversives and America hating riff raff.

    The media is in the tank and the gullible line up to support him. Including "Christians" who ignore scripture.

    Evil is not a word I use often about a person, but I really believe it describes Obama.

    Beware the silky tongued orator. He is the devil's advocate.
     
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    No, no, my point was he was leading sizable in the polls and was practicing his acceptance speech when he learned he lost.

    It ain't over until the polls close and the last vote is counted.
     
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    I think you're paranoid... You are the only one who has to live with why you voted against Obama. It's your conscience. I think you can vote for whom you will why you will and who or what ever you are is what you are. The media doesn't make a difference and Sean Hannity makes up for all the liberal media by his self. Watching him is like watching the comedy hour.
     

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