Questions...Are we filled at conversion? We believe we are. In our topical Bible Study we were covering Simon the Sorcerer from Acts 8:9-25. See Acts 8:14-17 KJVA... (14) "Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John: (15) Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost: (16) (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.) (17) Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost." ...The order seems to be belief, water baptism, then filling with the Spirit from Acts 8. But observe what happened when Peter came to Cornelius house...Acts 10:44-48 KJVA... (44) "While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. (45) And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. (46) For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, (47) Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? (48) And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days." ... The order of events seems to change again. ...Here we find belief, filling of the Spirit, speaking in tongues, and finally water baptism. ...Should we consider changing our beliefs based on Acts 8:14-17 or Acts 10:44-48?... Should we speak with tongues or not?...Are we correct in teaching that the Spirit comes to the new Christian at conversion? ...Where in the Bible does it clearly teach at a person is filled with the Spirit when that person is converted or saved ? ...It is not clear from Acts 8 and 10 to us. We are confused. ... Also how do we view Acts 8 and Acts 10 which helped to raise these questions for me or for us? ...Thanks for reading and your reply. We need to know what we believe and why we believe. We need to be "equipped." Thanks, Mr. Messy.