After 7 year tribulation

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  1. Brian30755

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    Question:

    After the 7 year tribulation period, we (the redeemed) come back to this earth with Christ to rule and reign for 1000 years. Right?

    After that, where do we go? Heaven forever? Stay here on this earth? "New Jerusalem" (Is that the same as heaven)?

    Not trying to start a debate.....just trying to get this clear in my mind. The simpler your answer, the better. Thanks. Brian
     
  2. Ed Edwards

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    At the beginning of the 7-year Day of the Lord (AKA: Tribulation
    Period), the Lord Jesus will come to take the Church Age
    crowd to Heaven.

    At the end of the 7-year-long Day of the Lord (AKA: Tribulation
    Period), the Lord will return in power an glory to defeat
    the Antichrist (and the whole Antichrist faction) and set up
    a physical Millennial Kingdom on earth.

    This eschatological theory is exactly what i HOPE will happen.
    However there is a whole topic devoted to my
    (mostly Biblical) proofs IN DETAIL at:
    (This is the page 15 entrance):
    http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/3/3055/15.html#000216

    IMHO some (but not all) of the 1-2 Billion (now, more if the Lord Tarries)
    Christians raptured or resurrected will be rewarded with service in
    the Millinnial Kingdom. The rest of the raptured/resurrected Christians
    will still be in heaven for that 1,000 years.
     
  3. Brian30755

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    Okay....now AFTER this 1,000 years, those in service in the Millinnial Kingdom....they then go to heaven for eternity? Then what happens to this earth? Destroyed?
     
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    Brian, there is an excellent book out now by Dr. Rany Alcorn called "Heaven". I would suggest reading it. I am going to read it a second time, myself.

    When the tribulation is over, the Bible tells us that the "New Jerusalem" will descend from Heaven. The Bible talks about "New Heaven and New Earth". This means just that. We will live here, where we are, but everything will be totally renewed. Just imagine how beautiful earth would be without sin! No weeds, brown grass, dying animals, dying humans, and bad weather! I believe that man was intended to live here all along (God called earth and everything created herein "good"), but sin mucked it up. The Bible tells us that "all creation" groans because of sin. All creation will be renewed one day. I think for God to get rid of everything He called "good" in Genesis would be an admission that sin overcame everything that was good, and God made a mistake, so now He has to start over. The Bible talks nothing of this, rather a "renewing".
    I could go on and on, but I would suggest reading that book, he uses only scriptural references about the paradise we will some day inhabit!
     
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    Gates of Pearl, streets of gold, walls of jasper.......they will all be HERE, on THIS EARTH?
     
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    Figure out how many folks that motel will hold.
    It is 1500 miles wide, 1500 miles long,
    and 1500 miles high. It could hold
    like up to 50 Billion people each with more space
    than New York City.

    I can't figure the physics of a
    1500 mile high object on the surface
    of a 8000 Mi Diamerer sphere, but it might
    be interesting [​IMG]
     
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    I am very busy to answer your question. I will reply about your question tomorrow for sure with verses. I love to discuss about this topic, what will be happen at the second coming.

    In Christ
    Rev. 22:20 -Amen!
     
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    Why not? We have gates of steel, streets of asphalt and walls of stucco now...it would only make sense to have such anemities with our Lord!
     
  9. OldRegular

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    No seven years tribulation, no 1000 year earthly reign. Instead when Jesus Christ returns there will be a general resurrection of all the dead followed by the Great White Throne Judgment. Satan and all the unsaved are cast into the lake of fire. There will be a new heavens and new earth where all the redeemed will dwell eternally with the Triune God.

    I recommend the book by Anthony Hoekema The Bible and the Future which presends a number of different views on the end times.
     
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    Guess I'll have to read Revelation again. Seems like these were both in there the last time I read it.
     
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    When you re-read Revelation, be careful to notice what the angel tells John about the New Jerusalem.

    Rev 21:9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.
    Rev 21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

    The New Jerusalem is the Church.
     
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    Amen, brother. Preach it! [​IMG]
     
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    Amen, brother. Preach it! [​IMG]
     
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    I am going to make a post briefly. I will post on these more details with verses later tonight.

    When I was young Christian life in my age early 20's. I heard from Christians and a pastor saying, New Jerusalem shall descend out of the heaven, but will staying in the sky. We will go down to earth, and return back up to New Jerusalem, as backward, forward, backward (like as 'yo-yo's)during millennium period. Also, they saying, Jews shall have a special services and they shall possess their land and reigning on earth, while we as 'Church' are reigning "heavenly" with Christ during 1000 years.

    Throughout years, I often hear them talking about millennium period. But, these do not making a sense to me. Because these are not find anywhere in the Bible. They stress or emphasis only in Revelation chapter 20, because of 'a thousand years' saying so - literally.

    Let you know, there is not a single verse find anywhere in the Bible saying, that we shall reigning with Jesus ON the earth for 1000 years. Not even, a single verse find anywhere in the Bible saying that modern Jerusalem shall be the world's capitol during a thousand years.

    I will discuss more about Eschatology doctrines with verses later tonight.

    In Christ
    Rev. 22:20 -Amen!
     
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    The following is my take on pretribulation doctrine. This earth will be destroyed after the millennial kingdom, and the Antichrist and his army of those deceived at the end of the 1000 years, as many as the sand of the seashores, will be doomed in the sky in one last Gog and Magog battle. You see, during the millennium, Christ will reign with a rod of iron, not allowing anyone to sin externally. Satan is also in a bottomless pit during this time. At the end, Satan is released, and will have one last opportunity to deceive. Those alive at the end of the millennium will have one last opportunity to turn against God, and apparently a great number of them will. Then they'll all be destroyed. The earth will melt away, and a new heaven and earth will made to live on forever and ever with Jesus.

    Cheers, Bluefalcon
     
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    What are we to do with this verse:

    Ecc 1:4 One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever.

    Isn't the New Jerusalem contained in the New Heavens and New Earth?
     
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    grasshopper,

    Ecc. 1:4 points talking about life is a temporary, and vanish away like as vapour - James 4:14.

    In Christ
    Rev. 22:20 -Amen!
     
  18. Brian30755

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    I can tell that this discussion is probably about to get way over my head.....but I would like to quote something from "Be Victorious" by Warren W. Wiersbe:

     
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    Yes, but you can't just ignore the rest can you?

    Ecc 1:4 One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever.


    Jesus didn't describe it in that way:

    Luk 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:

    Luk 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

    I won't even get into "when" the Kingdom was to arrive according to scripture.
     
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    Guess I'll have to read Revelation again. Seems like these were both in there the last time I read it. </font>[/QUOTE]You will have to read it more than twice, perhaps a half dozen times then you may understand some of it.

    Before you begin to read it again cleanse your mind of all the dispensational error you have been taught. Also don't approach Revelation with the idea that it is presenting a series of events in chronological order. Also notice the similarity between the events described for the seals, trumpets, and bowls.
     

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