Alabama Voters Place Roy Moore's Right Hand Man on Supreme Court

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  1. JGrubbs

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    One of the most important victories in the United States occurred on Tuesday with the Alabama Supreme Court. With more than a 200,000 vote edge over his opponent, Tom Parker (one of the featured speakers at Vision Forum's Witherspoon School of Law and Public Policy) was elected justice of the Alabama Supreme Court.

    Yes, Alabama voters have spoken. They watched as Roy Moore was thrown out of office. They could do nothing but witness this tragedy of justice (advanced in large part by Bill Pryor and his campaign manager and advisor Karl Rove). But Tom Parker gave Alabama voters the first opportunity to speak to the issue by running against the only incumbent on the Alabama Supreme Court running for re-election in 2004. This incumbent had supported the removal of the Ten Commandments monument and Roy Moore. Tom ran against hopeless odds-- being outspent 5-1. He won a great victory in the primary. Yesterday, he won the general election and will assume the position as Associate Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court-- the very court that fired him a year ago for his calling the federal order removing the Ten Commandments monument "Judicial Tyranny."

    Remember to pray for Tom and his wife Dottie. This husband and wife team are among the finest kind of Christians you will ever meet. A couple that lives and breathes the Word of God, they believes that being a Christian lawyer means more than passing out tracts to clients. Lawyers and judges must use the practice of law to advance the moral law of God

    Source: Doug's Blog
     
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    But...

    There were two other Supreme Court seats open. Two candidates who based their campaigns largely on supporting Moore never made it out of the Republican primaries.

    As a resident of Alabama, I considered that a good thing.
     
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    Rest assured that parker won chiefly by riding W's coattails. Many of us are just a bit tired of Moore's grandstanding.
     
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    This writer is obviously uninformed. Pryor did not advance the removal of Moore aside from following the court order. As common sense would have it, people are not allowed to disobey court orders at their own judgment. As Alabama attorney general and as a Christian, he was bound to carry out his duties. Neither was Pryor running for anything to have a campaign manager and advisor ... much less Karl Rove.
     
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    Sure. Get up in the morning, put on your clothes, and run the gas chambers. That's what Die Fuhrer told you to do.
     
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    Regardless of the 10C issue, you're absolutely right.
     
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    This writer is obviously uninformed. Pryor did not advance the removal of Moore aside from following the court order. As common sense would have it, people are not allowed to disobey court orders at their own judgment. As Alabama attorney general and as a Christian, he was bound to carry out his duties. Neither was Pryor running for anything to have a campaign manager and advisor ... much less Karl Rove. </font>[/QUOTE]No, he is not the one who is uninformed...

    Pryor did nothing to prevent the removal of Moore, he didn't even voice his disapproval of it. If a federal court orders a state to do something that is wrong, you would expect the state Attorney General to at lease speak up. 11 states just banned gay marriages in this election. If a federal court tells those states they have to allow gay marriages, I would expect to the states to fight the federal courts.

    In 1998 Karl Rove was Bill Pryor's campaign manager when he ran for attorney general. Rove has been Pryor's advisor ever since.

    In 1994, Rove was brought in to run Republican, pro-business campaigns for the Alabama Supreme Court. Rove would continue to be a consultant for Republican candidates in Alabama until 2000, when he focused his energies on Bush's presidential race. Under Rove's direction, the state high court went from all-Democratic to all-Republican except for a single Democrat, Associate Justice Douglas Johnstone, who is retiring this year.

    Rove was involved in only one high-profile loss in Alabama, when his candidate was defeated by then-Etowah County Circuit Court Judge Roy Moore in 1998. Moore was elected chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court in that race.

    Source: Capitol Hill Blue
     
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    You really should learn to breathe normally.
     
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    This writer is obviously uninformed. Pryor did not advance the removal of Moore aside from following the court order. As common sense would have it, people are not allowed to disobey court orders at their own judgment. As Alabama attorney general and as a Christian, he was bound to carry out his duties. Neither was Pryor running for anything to have a campaign manager and advisor ... much less Karl Rove. </font>[/QUOTE]No, he is not the one who is uninformed...

    Pryor did nothing to prevent the removal of Moore, he didn't even voice his disapproval of it. If a federal court orders a state to do something that is wrong, you would expect the state Attorney General to at lease speak up. 11 states just banned gay marriages in this election. If a federal court tells those states they have to allow gay marriages, I would expect to the states to fight the federal courts.
    </font>[/QUOTE]Perhaps Pryor didn't speak up because it wasn't the Federal courts that were in the wrong this time.
     
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    Thanks for making a totallly nonsensical comment that is completely unrelated to the topic at hand. ... Some things never change ...
     
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    Apparenlty the writer is not the only one misinformed. We live in a country of laws. Roy Moore, nor Bill Pryor, nor you have the right to decide which laws you will or will not obey. The courts interpret the laws. They may be wrong, but they are the final say until there is legislation or a higher court ruling. Period. I am so confused as to why Christians take such a low view of God's commands. Moore was not required to disobey any law of God. When he took his stand, he knew what the consequences should be. For him to drag the name of our Lord and Christianity through the mud to serve his own ends is unconscionable. I long for a day when Christians will be Christians rather than the tools of policy machines.

    Perhaps you missed the memo ... (It hasn't been widely circulated yet) ... but this is 2004. This action was in 2003 when Pryor was not running for anything. There was no campaign to be a manager of. Furthermore, there is no proof that Rove was involved in Pryor's decision in anyway.

    This is a bunch of loud horns playing way off key.
     
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    Tell me something, JGrubbs (or anyone else): if you have a monument constructed, then move that monument into place without fanfare and under cover of darkness, might one guess that you know you are performing an illegal action?
     
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    Well, if President Bush and the Republicans in the U.S. Senate follow through on the hopes that evangelical conservatives have placed in them concerning appointing truly conservative judges, then placing a 10 Commandments monument in a State court building won't be illegal anymore(not it ever really was in the first place).
     
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    Why would they do that? They OWN the Evangelical vote. The action goes to those whose votes they have to earn.
     
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    Karl Rove has been part of the Bush machine since the early 90's. When Rove was Pryor's campaign manager in 1998 he was still part of the Bush machine. Karl Rove is known for planning for the distant future, he knows how to put things in motion. There is no doubt in my mind that Pryor met with Rove as an advisor during the Roy Moore "problem".
     
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    And so because you have no doubt, that makes it true? Surely not ... But the bigger point is still that we live in a nation of laws. We do not get to disobey the ones we don't like, especially since we are Christians.
     
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    Karl Rove has been part of the Bush machine since the early 90's. When Rove was Pryor's campaign manager in 1998 he was still part of the Bush machine. Karl Rove is known for planning for the distant future, he knows how to put things in motion. There is no doubt in my mind that Pryor met with Rove as an advisor during the Roy Moore "problem". </font>[/QUOTE]I could with just as much proof insist that there is no doubt in my mind that Shakespeare was a cross-dresser. You need to prove your assertion, or retract it. When and where did Rove meet with Pryor concerning the Roy Moore debacle? Cite your source.
     
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    That's just the problem - should we all be willing to abandon our constitutional RIGHTS just because some secularists in DC tell us our constittutional rights are 'unconstitutional'? Moore clearly had the Ten Amendments on his side, and the Federal Court was thus acting illegaly in legislating by decree.
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    Yep. Get up in the morning, get dressed, and go run the gas chambers. Die Fuhrer told you to. I thought we once put people on trial for that.
     

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