Allen West on Obama and America?

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  1. righteousdude2

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    "Americans need to hold Obama up to the SAME standards they would for a white President!" - Allen West

    Do you agree or disagree?
     
  2. carpro

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    That would lead to impeachment.
     
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    ROFL .... yeah like Bush was given a free hand to take us into one disaster after another.
     
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    Bush never violated the Constitution.

    Bush never said: If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor!

    Bush never said: If you like your plan you can keep your plan!

    Bush was not a constant liar.

    Bush was not afraid to call Islamic Terrorists "Islamic Terrorists". Therefore, Bush never raised suspicions about what his religion was.[​IMG]

    Obamma has converted Bush's accomplishments into disasters.

    Obamma has added twice the debt in 6 years that Bush added in 8 and the country is in the longest recession since the Roosevelt Depression.

    Bush did not roll his eyes when he gave a speech.[​IMG]

    Unlike Obamma Bush was not the "Abortionist in Chief"!
     
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  5. righteousdude2

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    Thanks .... that was righteous and deserves a big AMEN!
     
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    Now for the facts...


    Sure he did. Specifically in the area of wire tapping.

    Nope, he never made those exact statements. You are right about that. He did lie pretty consistently though. Here's a full page of broken promises.

    https://www.americanprogressaction....09/1019/the-broken-promises-of-george-w-bush/

    Bush quotes:

    "America treasures the relationship we have with our many Muslim friends, and we respect the vibrant faith of Islam which inspires countless individuals to lead lives of honesty, integrity, and morality. This year, may Eid also be a time in which we recognize the values of progress, pluralism, and acceptance that bind us together as a Nation and a global community. By working together to advance mutual understanding, we point the way to a brighter future for all."

    "Islam brings hope and comfort to millions of people in my country, and to more than a billion people worldwide. Ramadan is also an occasion to remember that Islam gave birth to a rich civilization of learning that has benefited mankind."

    "Ours is a war not against a religion, not against the Muslim faith. But ours is a war against individuals who absolutely hate what America stands for, and hate the freedom of the Czech Republic. And therefore, we must work together to defend ourselves. And by remaining strong and united and tough, we'll prevail."

    "Some of the comments that have been uttered about Islam do not reflect the sentiments of my government or the sentiments of most Americans. Islam, as practiced by the vast majority of people, is a peaceful religion, a religion that respects others. Ours is a country based upon tolerance and we welcome people of all faiths in America."

    "Islam is a vibrant faith. Millions of our fellow citizens are Muslim. We respect the faith. We honor its traditions. Our enemy does not. Our enemy doesn't follow the great traditions of Islam. They've hijacked a great religion."

    "All Americans must recognize that the face of terror is not the true faith -- face of Islam. Islam is a faith that brings comfort to a billion people around the world. It's a faith that has made brothers and sisters of every race. It's a faith based upon love, not hate."

    "All of us here today understand this: We do not fight Islam, we fight against evil."

    "I've made it clear, Madam President, that the war against terrorism is not a war against Muslims, nor is it a war against Arabs. It's a war against evil people who conduct crimes against innocent people."

    "The face of terror is not the true faith of Islam. That's not what Islam is all about. Islam is peace. These terrorists don't represent peace. They represent evil and war."

    Elaborate.

    Bush holds the record for being #2 on debt increase. Bush and Obama make good bed fellows here.

    Just silly...

    Fact..abortions are at lower than Bush levels under Obama.

    http://www.abort73.com/abortion_facts/us_abortion_statistics/
     
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    That is subject to interpretation but abortions have been going down since 1990.


    Primary, nationwide abortion statistics for the United States are available from two sources—privately from the Guttmacher Institute (AGI) and publicly from the Centers for Disease Control (CDC). In recent years, California, Maryland, and New Hampshire have not publicly released their abortion totals—rendering the CDC numbers incomplete. The following information has been gleaned from both sources to provide an overview of the frequency and demography of abortion. Additional, secondary statistics have been taken from the National Abortion Federation's (NAF) 2009 teaching text on abortion, Management of Unintended and Abnormal Pregnancy: Comprehensive Abortion Care.

    1. The annual number of legal induced abortions in the United States doubled between 1973 and 1979, and peaked in 1990. There was a slow but steady decline through the 1990's. Overall, the number of annual abortions decreased by 6% between 2000 and 2009, with temporary spikes in 2002 and 2006 (CDC).

    2. In 2011, approximately 1.06 million abortions took place in the U.S., down from an estimated 1.21 million abortions in 2008, 1.29 million in 2002, 1.31 million in 2000 and 1.36 million in 1996. From 1973 through 2011, nearly 53 million legal abortions occurred in the U.S. (AGI).

    3. Based on available state-level data, an estimated 984,000 abortions took place in 2013—down from an estimated 1.02 million abortions in 2012.

    4. In 2011, the highest number of reported abortions occurred in California (181,730)

    5. Black women were 3.7 times more likely to have an abortion in 2011 than non-Hispanic white women (CDC).

    6. The abortion rate of non-metropolitan women is about half that of women who live in metropolitan counties (NAF).

    7. The abortion rate of women with Medicaid coverage is three times as high as that of other women (NAF).
     
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    :laugh:

    For all the Constitution breaking that the lot of you claim Obama has done, he hasn't done anywhere near the damage to the cause of Christ as did George Bush. I wonder why political conservatives don't talk about this. Perhaps because they are political conservatives but not spiritual conservatives.

     
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    With the many closings of abortion clinics conservatives and the GOP have worked to see to the option has become less available. Of course the clinics were only held to the same medical standards as any clinic would be and they could not meet the basic and necessary standards.
     
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    http://www.danielpipes.org/3026/bush-declares-war-on-radical-islam

     
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    I doubt that many people in this country were adversely affected by President Bush's comments. They don't see him as a Billy Graham. However, consider Obama and the democrats:

    Now we know!
     
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    The man stated to 1.5 billion folks on the way to hell that they serve the same God as Christians. There are people outside the United States.

    He was The President of the United States. HE was much better known than Billy Graham could have ever been and had far more immediate influence.



    There's no comparison between anything Obama has said about Islam and the statement George Bush made on three separate occasions.
     
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    Bull!



    BULL!





    I agree completely. Just consider what Obama says and what others say about him!

     
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    Having been in the east and stood and listened to it I can say it is the most evil thing I have ever heard.
     
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    Nothing but proof that you . . . say the things you say merely because of politics.

    But I already knew that.
     
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    After his last post if you continue to engage him you are just being foolish.
     
  17. Zaac

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    You're always talking about my posts out one side of your neck while trying to tell other folks not to engage me out the other side of your neck.

    Guess that's what's hot in your pulpit.
     
  18. righteousdude2

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    Actually, Rev has a good point. Debating with you is like fighting the Borg .... resistance is futile :laugh:
     
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    So you are saying that Zaac will always win?
     
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    Your bolding misses the important point that they utilized other sources for information because data wasn't provided to the CDC. They did this to maintain accurate numbers.

    So, you agree abortions have been going down since the 1990's. Why then is Obama the "Abortionist in Chief"? Wouldn't Bush also have been the Abortionist in Chief, since more abortions were performed under his watch than Obama's?
     

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