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Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by evangelist6589, Apr 25, 2013.

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  1. annsni

    annsni Well-Known Member
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    No need to resort to name calling. You live in New Jersey which is very similar to my area of New York - Long Island. Alcoholism is rampant - that is the problem. I love a good beer - and many other drinks but we've chosen to not partake because of our ministry. Is drinking wrong overall? No. I drinking wrong for many? Absolutely. Is NOT drinking wrong? No - not when it's done for the proper reasons.

    This man has a negative view of alcohol and it bothers him that he works there. I don't understand how one can work for a company that stands for something that makes him uncomfortable. But that's me.

    Bottom line is that this gentleman is uncomfortable with working there - is not happy - and wondering if it's a sin. If he has these feelings - whether or not they are "right" - he needs to deal with that and for now, if he believes it is a sin, it's a sin for him.
     
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  2. Zaac

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    If you say so.



    You do recognize that those are two different things? A banquet of aged wine is NOT an antecedent for best of meats and the finest of wines for OBVIOUS reasons.
     
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  3. InTheLight

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    HA HA HA HA HA HA ha ha!!

    The interpretation gymnastics you have to do to reach your conclusions is hilarious!
     
    #43 InTheLight, Apr 25, 2013
  4. Zaac

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    That didn't have anything to do with my interpretation but everything to do with your READING.

    You've essentially said that banquet of aged wines is the same thing as the best of meats and the finest wines. And again, for obvious reasons, that isn't so.

    So unless you're going through God's word replacing every instance of aged wines with "the best of meats and the finest wines", your attempt at whatever you think you're trying to explain fails miserably. :laugh:
     
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  5. Born Again

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    If drinking is such a controversial subject (as is obvious by reading any thread here regarding the subject) and causes us to belittle and laugh at one another as brothers and sisters in Christ on these threads, how more so foolish do we appear in the eyes of nonbelievers when we do as they do and act as they do? Shouldn't we be an example to separate ourselves from the world rather than being a part of the world that's just looking for an excuse to justify their behavior?
     
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    The Bible disagrees with you. The 'best' is well aged (Isaiah 25:6)
     
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    You really need to do more studying before making these kind of posts. Here's Passover 101... http://christianity.about.com/od/biblefeastsandholidays/p/passoverfeast.htm

    You clearly dont understand the process of fermentation, either. There is no yeast in alcoholic wine...but freshly squeezed grape juice is full of it. Try again...
     
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  8. webdog

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    You are right. Since the world abuses food and sex we should never partake of either of those either.
     
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    Webdog is correct. A wine "on the lees" is not grape juice.
     
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  10. Born Again

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    Which one/ones would you feel comfortable doing while witnessing and bringing someone to Christ?
     
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    Um...this probably won't be appreciated, but....

    It doesn't say "a banquet of aged wine" is an antecedent for "the best of meats and the finest of wines"; it says "a feast of rich food for all peoples, a banquet of aged wine" is an antecedent for "the best of meats and the finest of wines."

    "The best of meats" describes "a feast of rich food"; so "the finest of wines" describes "a banquet of aged wine."
     
    #51 Don, Apr 25, 2013
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    Silly question. I feel comfortable doing all of them in their context. Having a burger and a beer is an ideal environment for sharing the Gospel, and I have.
     
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    No its not....Just because alcohol is available doesnt mean someone automatically turns into a drunk. People need to evaluate the situation & if they have a drinking problem, stop drinking. If you cant stop drinking, then go to an AA meeting.

    You do know what the obvious question is, right!

    Its not a sin & he knows it!
     
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    Without some silly stigma being attached no doubt....good for you:thumbs:
     
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  15. Born Again

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    Be careful not to get burger grease or beer spill on your Bible while witnessing to the lost.
     
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    Nice of you to know his heart so well. If it is sin to him, then it is.

    Enjoy your beer.
     
    #56 Mexdeaf, Apr 25, 2013
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    I would say that that would give it some character!:applause:
     
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    THANKS, I fully intend to.:laugh:

    Besides, he should quit the whining, after all ....he has a job....allot of people are not so fortunate. Otherwise quit.
     
    #58 Earth Wind and Fire, Apr 25, 2013
  19. Born Again

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    Yea, while the lost person you're witnessing to is observing you.
     
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    Yea....because he will see a person who can actually control himself & still love the Lord.....because the two are not mutually exclusive. If WebDog has lead a person to Christ in a bar, what do you care? If he has had a beer with the guy, and still displayed the heart & mind of a Bible Believing Christian....then who are you to judge!:BangHead:
     
    #60 Earth Wind and Fire, Apr 25, 2013
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