Okay guess why is it when we have post concerning a pre-mil- pre-trib discussion that it seems as if the amil group decides to high jack with things which have nothing to do with the OP. Could it be they can't support their view. Then when they do make a statement it is that of calling the pre-trib group darbyites or label a post as a lie or false and yet offer no rebuttal. Then when the pre-tribbers- pre-mil folks post teachings from A.D. 150 -350 they are told produce scripture. Again scripture has been produced and shown in post after post. Then to show someone before the man they claim began the pre-trib, dispensational view they demand scripture knowing they've had both and all this after they already brought up side issues to fill up the thread so it can end. What say you folks why would this happen when these threads are for discussions on these issues not for them to high-jack?