In the thread "Casting Out Demons, steaver responded to a comment with this post: So, is he right? The context is that of the time during Jesus' earthly ministry. Here's the problem I see. Jesus told Nicodemus that he had to be born again, born from above. We have evidence that Nicodemus became a believer. Are they not the same? Why would Jesus say that to Nicodemus if it were not immediately possible for him to be born again? Were Jesus disciples not born from above, not saved, even though they (eleven, anyway) were believers? Also, is steaver correct by saying that the "regeneration phase of the bride of Christ had not yet begun." I don't think so, but I'd like to hear more. Steaver, please elaborate with the appropriate scripture. Others, have at it.