Murph, I'm not picking on you, but I only quote the following as an example of what many believe that there cannot be any saved catholics: I agree 100% with what you are sayong about Ps 22 and how everyone needs to get a better view of Calvary, it just might put an end to all the bickerings known throughout most churches. I have an aunt that says she has a personal relationship with Christ. She also says she asked Jesus to come into her heart and He saved her from her sins. She also claims that the Blood of Jesus alone paid the sin debt and she has absolutely nothing within her or that she can do to keep herself saved or help her be saved. She denies the "prosubstanciation" of receiving Christ through a wafer and a shot glass of wine. She also claims there to be only one way of salvation and that is through godly sorrow that works repentence unto salvation when you ask her why she got saved. Other than a couple of really insignificant things she does, she lives as clean as many Baptists I know, and cleaner, not better, than most. So is she saved? I believe she is. What other requirement is there for salvation than godly sorrow unto repentence unto salvation and not to be repented of? Do I believe she is in the wrong church? YES! Does she do things that I would consider doctrinally wrong? Definitely, but many Baptists do things just as bad, if not worse. I believe there are at least a few catholics that are genuinely saved, misled and misinformed? Yes, saved all the same. Anyone believe other wise? How do you come to your conclusion?