Are ya'll being nice to ....

So then, the government is wasting my money and invading my privacy on the premise that they need this information to give more money that they're not Constitutionally authorized to dole out to support more programs that the Constitution doesn't authorize, and that "urgently needed" information isn't even going to be available in 72 years? Let them come talk to me in 72 years, then.

But even in 72 years, it's still not going to be any of their business.

 

And what business is that of the government's?

I don't complain to the census worker. I understand that they're just doing a job. I don't blame the individual census workers. Just as a note of trivia, my mother was a census worker back in the 50's and 60's. Coincidentally, she was pregant both times and they sent her up into the hills and hollers under the premise that the moonshiners wouldn't shoot a pregnant woman (true story!)

 

We're not allowed to ask to enter someone's home, but we can go in if we're invited, but a lot of common sense applies there.

There is some bad news. When they called me for the job they told me it would last about 3 months. When I took the Oath of Office, our appointments were until June 22. However, our crew wasn't performing as well as others. I was doing fine, my CL told me that I'm the best enumerator in our crew and I have the best numbers. But, because a lot of our crew wasn't doing their jobs as well as they should, they assigned us six new enumerators from their class of replacement enumerators. They also told the slackers to pick up the pace or face disciplinary action. At this point, I'd be surprised if this lasts more than two more weeks.

With that said, there are a couple of possibilities. One is that some nearby crews are having issues and they might give us some of their work. The other is that I think they need more people in the office, and I might be able to be used there. I'd be taking a pay cut to do that, but its better than no job. The Census clerks get $11.75/hr. compared to the $15/hr. I get as an enumerator.

 

My daily meetings are at 10:15 AM with the CL and one or sometimes both of the CLAs. Each enumerator comes in at a different time. It normally takes me 45 minutes or so for the CLAs/CL to check over all of the paperwork, discuss any issues that occurred, and fill out and check the D-308. Does your crew have you all meet at the same time or do you stagger the meeting times like mine?

 

OK, I'm curious. If you, a census worker, encounters a citizen with multiple personalities...do you count all of them?

 

Only if they entered the country legally.:laugh:

 

I was annoyed that the census worker asked for our names and the names of our children. That's just wrong, imo.

 

Yea our current culture is way more private that it once was. The government should respect our culture.

 

If they don't have your names, how will your great-great-grandchildren use Census data to trace their family history when the information is unsealed in 72 years?

 

The constitutional mandate for the Bureau of the Census is to count all residents, regardless of legal status.

 

Hey there young fella.....try better reading comprehension. And Happy belated B-day

 

Why would you let them in at all? Is going inside part of their job? Keep outside let them mark "refused" that is their job.

 

Thank you! BTW, I know you were joking with your other post.

 

To answer your question, we don't need to come inside your house and we're not allowed to ask. If you offer, we can come inside if we believe the situation is safe. You might let "them" in as a matter of courtesy if it's raining or hot outside, etc. With that said, we will never ask to come inside and I certainly don't expect a resident to invite me in. And even if you choose to commit a federal crime by refusing to provide the information, be polite about it. If I have a refusal, I'm not going to argue about it with them; I just tell them I'll report the refusal and then I leave. Keep in mind that if you refuse and you're rude about it, that goes on the D-225 and how I write it up determines, to a large extent, what action we take. Also, you will be counted whether you like it or not. If you refuse, we already know you're there. We have other techniques to get information. I had one person get nasty and refuse at an apartment complex. That's okay because the apartment manager gave me the number of residents in that unit, her and her kids' names, sex, dates of birth, how they're related, if they are Hispanic, and race. I also got all that information for those who I was not able to contact after 3 attempts, once on a weekday, once on a weekend, and once on a weekday evening. I've heard of the Bureau having the mailman dig through their mail to get the residents' names, but I haven't seen it happen here. (It has to be a Post Office employee doing it and then giving that information to the enumerator. The Census Bureau is not allowed to mess with your mail or put anything in your mailbox.) We will also interview your neighbors to get your information. Plus we can also do a reverse phone number lookup based on your address and get your name that way if you have a listed number, because your name and number show up together.

 

You are sounding like quite the low level bureaucrat here - threatening people.

You are also saying here that there are different penalties for committing this federal crime - one for those who politely refuse to comply and another for those who are rude.

How much time in prision can I get for being rude to you?

 

It was just an emotional response nothing more.