Are You A Calvinist?

Marcia, I noticed that you've been a member of BB since 2004.

 

I wish we had the old C/A forum.

 

I'm not sure if anyone knows this or not but I don't hold to Calvinism :laugh:

 

Tell it not in Gath!

 

That almost sounds like a threat?!? :smilewinkgrin:

 

Take the "I" out

"Almost(as in horseshoes and granades) thou persuedest me to become a Christian" and "He went away sorrowful, for he had many possessions"

NOPE---I'm not

And we need to remember that anytime one studies the works of Calvin---they are studying something that is somewhat less than infallable and inerrant!!!

But it is goot to zee zour goot comrade, Marcia back!!!!!

 

We also have to remember that studying the works of Calvin has little to nothing to do with being a Calvinist.Most of us came to our convictions through studying the Bible;without so much as a glance at The Institutes'or any other work by Calvin.

 

Say it ain't so!

 

Yeah, I was thinking exactly the same thing, although I haven't been here very long.

 

Good Day, Marcia

With in the historical context of the baptist view of what the nick name you use "Calvinisim"


I say Yes I am "Calvinist" for it is the Gospel plain and simple.

CH Spurgeon:

I have my own private opinion that there is no such thing as preaching Christ and Him crucified, unless we preach what nowadays is called Calvinism. It is a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else. I do not believe we can preach the gospel, if we do not preach justification by faith, without works; nor unless we preach the sovereignty of God in His dispensation of grace; nor unless we exalt the electing, unchangeable, eternal, immutable, conquering love of Jehovah; nor do I think we can preach the gospel, unless we base it upon the special and particular redemption of His elect and chosen people which Christ wrought out upon the cross; nor can I comprehend a gospel which lets saints fall away after they are called, and suffers the children of God to be burned in the fires of damnation after having once believed in Jesus. Such a gospel I abhor.


In Him,

Bill

 

Well, ok, then.

 

It depends on what you mean by Calvinist. If you mean Do I believe the Bible? then yes, I am a Calvinist. I find it impossible to be anything without giving up belief in the Bible.

 

And this kind of statement is exactly why I don't participate in the discussions. By inference, then, the rest of us don't believe the Bible--or at least we are immature in our faith, excuse me theology, until we arrive at, yes--Calvinism!

Well I believe the Bible with all of my heart, love it, read it and meditate on it every single day of my life, do my best to obey it. And I've read through the systematic theologies. And I've seen all the arguments and am not a Calvinist and won't become one. Why? Because I believe the Bible. But I'm willing to recognize your Calvinism without saying you don't believe the Bible.

 

John, in Pastor Larry's defense, many arminians refuse to allow themselves to be called such and resort to "Biblicist etc"
We all claim here to be bible believers.
But some of us are monergists (Calvinists) and some of us are some form of Arminian (synergists)

The question comes down to this: are we elect because of our decision or God's decision to elect us?

The Bible teaches us that God has chosen us. We did not choose God.
Therefore I am a calvinist, not because of reading John Calvin since I have never read any of his works.
I have read what the Bible has to say and it is quite clear that God has chosen us.

Therefore if you are not a calvinist in belief (whether you hold to the name or not) you are not Biblical in this area. It may be ignorance or it may be willful rejection or it may be tradition (most likely) getting in the way.

 

I have some questions for you folks.

If Calvinism is real, then why should I even try to live right, accept Christ or even witness to anyone?

If my, and your eternity is already predestined, then why even bother with church?

If I am not one of the elect, then why believe Christ, much less trust Him?

If you are one of the elect, and your eternity is secure.....and I not one of the elect and doomed to hell....then why do you go to church? Just to gloat?

Tell me why, if my eternity is predetermined before I was even born,,,,,,why should I spend even one minute wondering about it, or serving a God that either saves me or damns me without giving me a choice?

AJ

 

Yes, I think those who are not Calvinists do not believe the Bible at some points. That doesn't mean they are going to hell, and it doesn't mean they do not preach the gospel. It simply means that at some points, I think that they do not believe the statements of Scripture. How could it be otherwise?

You have no choice whether you voice it or not. If you think the Bible teaches against Calvinism, then you believe that I don't believe it. I am fine with that. I will rest my case any day against the weight of the scriptural text and have no fear that anyone will ever disprove calvinism.