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As Scottie Sowed, So Is He Reaping

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Revmitchell, May 31, 2008.

  1. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
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    It appears that McClellan may have been bought and paid for.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121210331991330989.html?mod=djemEditorialPage

    By now you know the news, if that's the word for it: Mr. McClellan dutifully supported the war as presidential spokesman from 2003-2006, but he has since "become genuinely convinced" it was wrong. He has also had a revelation that the Administration used "propaganda" to sell the war, though this means he himself was chief propaganda minister for three years during which he expressed no similar qualms. Mr. McClellan settles various personal scores, and in particular seems bitter about former deputy chief of staff Karl Rove. White House aides can defend themselves, and we'll let others speculate about Mr. McClellan's motives for turning on his friends.

    We'd merely note that the book's publisher is PublicAffairs, an imprint founded by left-wing editor Peter Osnos and which has published six books by George Soros. PublicAffairs is owned by Perseus Books, which is owned by Perseus LLC, a merchant bank whose board includes Democrats Richard Holbrooke and Jim Johnson, who is now doing Barack Obama's vice presidential vetting. One of Perseus's investment funds, Perseus-Soros Biopharmaceutical, is co-managed with Mr. Soros.

    Mr. Osnos, who is "editor-at-large" at PublicAffairs, told liberal blogger Rachel Sklar that he "worked very closely" with Mr. McClellan and his editor, Lisa Kaufman. Readers can guess what advice Mr. Osnos gave them about how to make headlines and sell a book six months before a presidential election in which Iraq will be a major issue.
     
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    Uh huh. They all put out a huge smoke screen but none of them could provide a spark, let alone a flame, to validate their smoke.

    Mostly it aqppears to have been coming out of their ears. They all had their own axes to grind and agendas to advance.
     
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    :laugh:
    We all know how objective the Wall Street Journal is, especially now that Dow Jones is owned by NewsCorp., huh?

    Now that is objective: a "liberal blogger."

    A point worth noting is that this editorial does not address the allegations made by Scott McClellan, opting instead to question his motives.

    Interesting...
     
  4. Baptist in Richmond

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    How many would it take to question your support of the Administration?
     
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    There's no reason for McClellan to lie about his opinions.


    The truth doesn't matter when it comes to payback, only the perception of truth.

    Bush haters will believe absolutely anything bad or evil they hear or are told about Bush. Whether it's true or not doesn't matter.
     
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    Speaking of paybaCK...

    http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCommentary.asp?Page=/Commentary/archive/200806/COM20080602a.html

    McClellan on Plame

    By Robert D. Novak
    CNSNews.com Commentary
    June 02, 2008

    In Scott McClellan's purported tell-all memoir of his trials as President George W. Bush's press secretary, he virtually ignores Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage's role leaking to me Valerie Plame's identity as a CIA employee. That fits the partisan Democratic version of the Plame affair, in keeping with the overall tenor of "What Happened."

    Although the media response dwelled on McClellan's criticism of Bush's road to war, the CIA leak case is the heart of this book. On July 14, 2003, one day before McClellan took the press secretary's job for which many colleagues felt he was unqualified, my column was published asserting that Plame at the CIA suggested her Democratic partisan husband, retired diplomat Joseph Wilson, for a sensitive intelligence mission. That story made McClellan's three years at the briefing room podium a misery, leading to his dismissal and now his bitter retort.
     
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    Bro. Curtis, I don't think we would have went into Iraq if not for Bush and company. I am not convienced that either Gore, or Kerry would have made this same mistake Bush did.
     
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    I disagree, DF. History shows an extreme prejudice towards that country coming from the likes of Kerry, Gore, Kennedy, Clintons......the U.N......
     
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    Good point, though it seems Bush has more "high ranking" ones.

    See... that's just it. The proof is whether or not you believe what they're saying, which incidentally, inspite of your "Take me back in time and show me metaphysically!" type of demand is all that can be provided. You obviously chose to believe the good proof about Bush and Co which stems for what his supporters say about him. Hey, that's cool: but you're still taking someone else's word for it. Welcome to the club.
     
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    No, the proof is actual proof.

    Saying something doesn't make it so. Having an opinion doesn't make it a fact.

    I have seen and heard enough opinion about Bush from his detractors to last a lifetime. They have not proven even one allegation of illegal activity.

    McClellan is just more of the same.
     
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    Don't forget David Kuo, the former White House staffer who worked in the Office of Faith-Based Initiative. In his book, Tempting Faith, he noted the contempt with which some Administration officials viewed the so-called "religious right."

    By the way, did anyone notice that the Project for the New American Century has disappeared from the Internet?

    Regards,
    BiR
     
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    McClellan bought and paid for by Soros.


    http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/05/soros_publisher_shaped_mcclell.html

    May 31, 2008
    Soros Publisher 'Shaped' McClellan's Hit Job: Other publishers don't recognize it as the same book

    By William Tate

    An examination of published reports reveals that Scott McClellan's kiss-and-smell betrayal of George W. Bush is a far cry from the book McClellan started out to write and was shaped into an offensive tome by a publisher with close ties to George Soros.

    To understand how McClellan's literary knife-in-the-back evolved, one has to know something about the book industry.

    Unlike fiction, a non-fiction book usually hasn't been written before it's sold to a publisher. The author normally puts together an outline and/or synopsis detailing what the book will be about and how it will be structured, and writes 1-3 sample chapters to show the author's writing ability. The author's agent then shops the proposal around to prospective publishing houses.

    The agent actually lands the deal, so the choice of agents is crucial. Any author normally starts at the top of the A list and works his or her way down until--or if--they find an agent with whom they can work. According to an Associated Press article,

    "McClellan's book does not fit the pattern of Washington megadeals. He was not represented by Washington, D.C., attorney Bob Barnett, whose clients include Tenet and countless political leaders, but by the much less known Craig Wiley, whose most famous client is actor Ron Silver."
     
  15. Baptist in Richmond

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    That's right, carpro: keep attacking the messenger.
    What is glaringly obvious is that you are unable to provide anything to refute what Scott McClellan is revealing in his book.

    Again, what would it take for you to question the current Administration?

    Amazing......
     
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    All I see is personal attacks on McClellan, but no serious refutation of the points he makes. Not here, not in the right-wing media.
     
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    No, more likely, spiritual condition.
     
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    Why bother?

    His paid for opinion carries no more weight than anyone elses.
     
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    Well ain't it a good thing you aren't the decider on that. Amazing that you equate politics with this.
     
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