At judgement, are men condemned for sin or for unbelief?

Every Calvinistic church I know gives huge amounts of time, money, and effort to missions and evangelism. Furthermore, William Carey and his supporters were all Calvinists. So, you assertion that "...[it] is an effect of the doctrine that cannot be denied" is patently false.

Just as you suggest many Arminian churches fell into universalism--and it is possible in your doctrine--because they had not sought to combat the scriptural error of universalism, some Calvinist churches fell into hyper-Calvinism--which is possible (but not normal as you disingenuously suggest)--because they had not sought to combat the error of not doing missions.

We do not believe God is going to save His elect with or without us! HOLY MOSES! HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY THIS TO GET YOU PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THIS!

We believe that we (human believers) are the means by which God chooses to bring the Gospel to people. If we do not go, the Gospel will not be preached. Period. Read Romans 10.

Listen to John Piper and tell me he doesn't preach without urgency. Listen to Mark Dever (who preaches the Gospel in each and every message he preaches--and calls for a response) and tell me he doesn't preach with urgency. Listen to C.J. Mahaney and tell me he doesn't preach with urgency.

Look at the budgets of Bethlehem Baptist Church (Piper) and tell me they don't give to missions. Look at the budget of Capitol Hill Baptist Church and their missions efforts and tell me the almost $1,000,000 per year they give to missions shows they do not passionately engage in missions.

You speak without understanding.

The Archangel

 

I vote men are judged for sin. As you said, unbelief is also a sin. In a sense sin roots from unbelief of what light you have, even if it is simply natural and engrafted evidence God has given to all by His goodness.

I see people going to hell because of the perfect judgement God has for them for not keeping His Law, because that is the requirement to those who live apart from Christ. The must live perfectly and if they dont they will be judged for every sin they have committed. They basically pay their own penalty.

Now many are going to hell for their sins and one of their greatest sins which would be the rejection of their only chance to escape hell- Jesus

The more light someone gets the more hardened they get for their rejection.

 

Are you one of the elect?

 

If you are in a state of belief, you have a propitiation, but if you are not believing then you dont have a propitiation and thus remain in your sin.

In Adam we all are condemned. In Christ we all are saved. I dont think the purpose was to show that Christ atoned for every single man who ever lived, but rather to show that sin came through Adam and redemption in Christ.
1 Corinthians 15:21-22

Ill have to hit this one later, I have to be in class. Note I fixed your typo its from 2 Corinthians 5. I will try to comment on it after I spend some thime with it.

 

"Who do you think William Carey argued with before going on the mission field. At that time he was in the minority."

Orthodox Baptists, that is before he and Andrew Fuller led many of them away from their orthodoxy.

 

Whether you admit it or not if you are saved you were chosen by GOD to be one of HIS own before the foundation of the world. It is very gracious of GOD not to hold your erroneous belief against you.

 

Perhaps those who believe in the Sovereign Doctrines of Grace are just more obedient to the commands of Scripture than those who believe in Freewillism.

 

If he is not one of the elect he should not be participating on this forum; neither should you!:jesus:

 

I would not brag about it!:laugh::laugh::laugh:

 

So your point was that the Baptists of today aren't what they once were doctrinally or practically? You are basically admitting that you don't hold to the same practice and beliefs as your Baptist ancestors. That's truly something to be proud of.

 

I believe the same thing about you!

 

I vote that folks go to hell for their unbelief on the basis of the scriptural evidence presented in the OP.

Its sad to say but even Christians keep sinning after conversion, I admit to sinning each day.
Do I witness to each person I come in contact with???? no
Do I wear a hood over my eyes when I go to the mall with my wife??? no

If folks went to hell on the basis of sin, there would be no one in heaven.

But I also must qualify the above in relation to the question asked by the OP, it says "at judgment"....
I don't feel the Christian has a "judgment" in front of him if the judgment is considered a time when he/she is judged saved or unsaved.
I believe the Christian was judged at conversion, any future judgment involving member of the Body of Chirst will only deal with rewards based on the things done in their life, not salvation.

 

The elect were judged at the cross where they were declared righteous, or justified.

 

No. Sin was judged on the cross. No one is justified apart from faith.

 

By his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many, for (because) he shall bear their iniquities.

Who shall lay anything to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

These are just a few instances in scripture where justification is tied directly to the cross.