Avoiding Enticement

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  1. paul wassona

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    Name some ways you know will help the soul avoid being enticed into sin. Some will be stronger than others in areas you might not be. Please avoid accusing each other of their having "problems", we all have problems with the flesh. This is to help the weaker brother, not make occasion for the flesh,THANKS!
     
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    Many places in the New Testament God tells us to flee from temptation and sin. That is how we avoid it. We don't give it the ability to take root. Run from it.
     
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    I haven't had a TV for thirty years. That's probably helped.
     
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    Thanks for the replies. On the part about the tv, would it be because you saw it best not to have temptations to lust and covet after things or people by the appearance?
     
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    Be immersed in the Word of God.

    Surround yourself with believers who will keep you accountable.

    If there is anything that tempts you to stumble, stay away from it.
     
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    Good answers so far.

    We do know that God provides a way of escape.

    "God is faithful, who will not [permit] you to be tempted above that ye are able [to bear]; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape." (1 Cor. 10:13)

    Well, what is that way of escape? I think it's peculiar to each Christian and for different temptations. It's very clear that the Bible says that scripture is a way of escape.

    "Thy word have I hid in my heart that I might not sin against Thee." (Psalm 119:11)

    And as others have said, running from it, having accountability partners, and removing the source of temptation are good ideas, too.

    Here's a couple of good things about temptation that I found on the net written by Mary Fairchild.


     
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    Don't put yourself in a position where you know you will be tempted.

    If I'm on a diet, I don't go near the ice cream shop.
     
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    Sometimes that's impossible. There is a young woman at our church who wears strapless sundresses in the summer. She is very attractive and if you're sitting behind her, you will get a full view of her naked back. If you're walking toward her, you will get a full view of....well, you know.
    I don't how a man is expected to avoid this type of temptation when it is thrust right in his face. I guess all the men should avoid coming to church??? And yes, someone needs to talk to this young woman, but in the meantime....the temptation is there.

    We should not allow ourselves to get into situations where we know that we will be tempted, but at the same time, we should all do what we can to keep our brothers and sisters from stumbling.

    There is responsibility on both sides of this issue.
     
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    Yes there is responsibility on both sides of this issue. What is the problem with asking men to control themselves? Don't allow your eyes to stray. A little self control is not too much to ask of a Christian man, is it?
     
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    We're all going to be tempted to sin. Even Christ was tempted. It is our individual responsibility to keep from sinning when we are tempted.

    If I am on a diet, I do not ask my family and friends not to eat ice cream in front of me, because it's not their fault if I overeat, it's mine. It's not up to them to change their habits to accommodate me, it's up to me to conform to God's word.

    "If sinners entice thee, consent thou not." The word doesn't say to tell the sinners to change their behavior so you are not enticed.
     
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    Yeah, we men shouldn't expect you women not to dress provocatively. It's your right and we should just ignore it.
     
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    Did you read what I said? "It's up to me to conform to God's word."

    My conforming to God's word includes not dressing in a provocative manner. That means not wearing tight, revealing clothing.

    It does not include wearing ankle length, long sleeved dresses 24/7 because some weirdo is "enticed" by seeing my ankles.
     
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    Well, is it too much to ask a Christian woman to dress as to keep from enticing men to look? Or should men's eyes be poked out so thye could never see the female?

    A study has been done to show men react to 80% of what they see and 20% of what they hear, the opposite when it comes to women. That's why you think we don't listen and homely men can end up with beautiful wives!:type:

    Men really have controlled themselves except for a few. Just look at how much we do have to control ourselves in how much women reveal their bodies these days!:type:

    Turning a blind eye is much easier for women, turning a deaf ear is much :saint:easier for men.
     
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    Somebody just might call you a pharisee or a legalist according to the above.:type:

    I agree with you and have had that happen to me.

    I have seen very godly ladies approach the skimpy dressed women and offer to clothe them with something a little less revealing. We do have a large clothes closet with a variety of sizes and styles and they can even take their pick of what will cover them.:type:
     
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    I have mixed feelings on this. It is not good to send a message to unsaved women that they have to dress a certain way to be in your church. If you actually saw this happen, then the ladies were not being discreet enough and might have really embarrassed the other woman.

    If I were an unsaved woman and attended a church where some stranger tried to "cover me up" because they didn't like my clothes, I doubt I would bother to go back. We don't have to "clean up" to come to Christ. We come to him first and HE is the one who cleans us up and convicts us of sin.

    If the skimpy dresser is a new convert, it's up to the other ladies to gently mentor her, not embarrass her by dragging her to a clothes closet in front of everyone. We need to focus more on the heart attitude and less on outward appearance.

    Also, man's definition of modesty is not necessarily God's definition of modestly. On another thread, wasn't it you who claimed you had a problem with women wearing sleeveless tops? I hope if women come to your church wearing sleeveless tops, they are not forced to "cover up" in the way you just mentioned. Maybe I'm reading more into what you said? I hope so.
     
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    A few of my issues and how I avoid them:

    Smoking: I stay away from smoking areas of places and don't drink coffee during times when I'm stressed enough to want to smoke. (for some reason my immediate reaction to stress is a shot of nicotine and a shot of caffeine, and if I get caffeine during then, the nicotine will be more tempting)

    Jealousy: I don't play well with others, especially other women. If I see someone looking at my husband, I am proud of him and that I have him, but also immediately tempted to claw out the looker's eyeballs. I remind myself that
    1. I am lucky
    2. Sometimes you kinda have to look at someone of the opposite sex. Either that or wear a bag over your head. I'd prefer other women wear the bag, but I can't make that happen so I try to remind myself of good old-fashioned logic.
    3. I pray to be more secure and remind myself of how worthy I am in the eyes of God.
    4. I'll occasionally go to my husband for reassurance and he always gives it.

    Giving: Sounds like a stupid curse, right? However, I have a tendency to do it to a fault. I could be in a homeless shelter and I'd still help someone else out who needed money or something. Actually, I was. And I did. I will put myself in stupid situations to help someone out.
    So I remind myself of what is and isn't an obligation. That I can't save the world. That not everybody will respond to kindness and become a better person, that some just use you until you have nothing left to give and they never change. I still have a hard time believing that, but experience tells me it's true, even though I still hold out hope that maybe they really changed in their hearts and were too embarrassed to show it STOP IT GINA!
    Anyhow, I look at what Jesus did. He didn't excuse people's idiocy when they were presented with a choice and made the wrong one. He still expected them to right the wrong they did to other humans, no matter what.

    Actually, that's a good summary and could have avoided me typing all this.

    Look at Jesus and what he would do, and then do that instead. Make it an immediate habit to stop everything and pray when you are tempted. Take a verse and memorize it and repeat it afterward or right then. It's really hard to have a mind for sin when your mind is filled with Christ.
     
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    This is why men are given the authority. Most women just don't get it.
     
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    Sounds like you might have an Adam-complex going on there Aaron. "She made me" is a VERY old excuse. It didn't fly with God, and it doesn't fly with "most women," who, contrary to your opinion, DO get it. Maybe too often.
     
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    Like I said, most women just don't get it. You're easily deceived. That's why you can't have authority over men.
     
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