Babies destroyed for science

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  1. tinytim

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    http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/09/obama.stem.cells/index.html

    I want to personally think each of you that voted to put that evil man in for President of the US...

    Because of YOUR vote.. babies can now be destroyed to further science.

    YOU SHOULD BE PROUD OF YOURSELF.

    I hope that all of you that support this evil man, have sorrow in your soul for the lives that will be lost because of his atrocious acts as our abortion loving president....

    It sickened me to see all those leaders... like pelosi laughing and clapping as Mr Obortion signed in to law a decree from his highness to destroy human life.

    May God have mercy on our Country...

    In other news... tensions are mounting between us and China... hmmm...
     
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    Tim, how can we condemn China's human rights record when we are killing babies? Doesnt make sense to me.

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    I am praying for mercy, but I keep seeing judgment. I would not want to be in BHO's shoes when that day happens.
     
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    But we're doing it in the name of SCIENCE! That makes it all right, doesn't it?
     
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    Dr. Harold Varmus, president of Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center and co-chairman of Obama's science advisory council, said Sunday that Obama will "endorse the notion that public policy must be guided by sound, scientific advice."

    Obama's order will direct the National Institutes of Health to develop revised guidelines on federal funding for embryonic stem cell research within 120 days, said Varmus, who joined Barnes in the conference call with reporters.

    "The president is, in effect, allowing federal funding of human embryonic stem cell research to the extent that it's permitted by law -- that is, work with stem cells themselves, not the derivation of stem cells," he said.

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    This law signed by Obama does not increase the number of adult cell embryos obtained (read abortion). It increases the use of existing adult stem cell lines. It doesn't support the murder of unborn children but rather the use of what we have to save life through scientific research. The activity done to accomplish this is no different than the activity funded by the Bush administration. If you consider this to involve murder of the unborn then the Bush administration was just as guilty.
     
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    JC.. if you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you...
     
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    I'm just trying to picture in my mind someone with this line of thinking trying to jump through all those hoops. How "acrobatic."

    Embryonic stem cell research means that human life is murdered. There is no justification for this.

    I am a diabetic. I would rather die early from diabetes than know that my life was extended by murder.

    I thought Bill Clinton was the biggest enemy of life. Now I believe it's Obama and a Democrat led congress.

    How much longer until God says, "enough!"? Or maybe the Obama presidency IS God saying "Enough!"
     
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    BALONEY!!

    From the CNN report-

    Researchers highly value embryonic stem cells because of their potential to turn into any organ or tissue cell in the body. Stem cells have this ability for a short time. A few days before the embryo would implant in the uterus, it starts to develop into specific cells that will turn into skin or eyes or other parts of a developing fetus.


    When the embryo is 4 or 5 days old, scientists extract the stem cells and put them in a petri dish. With the removal of these stem cells -- of which there may be about 30 -- the embryo is destroyed.


    If you believe that life begins at conception you cannot deny that this is anything but outright MURDER.
     
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    This is the point!
     
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    How can you say this? I've read the article three times, trying to figure out how you came to this conclusion; instead, I see the article explaining that extracting the cells destroys the embryo, necessarily leading to the conclusion that more embryos will be needed; and two senators who state that "we shouldn't have to create life in order to enhance life" and that we can do the same research without the destruction of living human embryos.

    So how did you reach a conclusion that's completely opposite of the conclusions drawn in the article?
     
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    I heard on the news that these embryos are coming from "Test Tube baby" surplus. If you want to stop the murder stop test tube babies. These embryos would have been "discarded." I think it's better for them to possibly be a part of saving people's lives than to be thrown in the trash. Which would you pick?

    Know any nice couples who have used the test tube baby process to have a baby? They are murders.
     
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    Actually, if you want the whole story, Bush gave about $170 million to research these stem cells, that were there before his ban. He never banned the research, just the tax $ support of it. And he did it in the first year of his presidency, and I commend him for it.

    What Obama's action will do is have your tax $ spent on creating life, for the specific purpose of destroying it. We will see how much he funds them when the grants start getting approved.

    The statement about test tube baby parents being murderers is ridiculous.
     
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    I would pick for them not to have been created in the first place.

    There is no shortage of unparented children.

    To insist on having a child of your own biology at any cost - even the destruction of your own children as embryos is pure vanity.

    I think that making babies in a test tube should be stopped.

    Do you agree, JustChristian?
     
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    No, its not ridiculous. The practice in the US is to use about a dozen eggs on the first attempt at in vietro fertilization. In most cases several embryos are "left over" from this process. They are frozen. They can be "afdopted" but most are not. They are simply discarded or murdered in fact. I would agree with the statement that the practice of making "test tube" babies should be opposed by everyone who opposes abortion. It's the samr thing.
     
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    With that I agree...
     
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    Since you say that you agree with the statement that the practice of making test tube babies should be opposed by everyone who opposes abortion - will you join me in saying that we should oppose the practice of making test tube babies?

    Do you oppose the practice of making test tube babies?

    I notice that you avoided my direct question to you on the very same.
     
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    What should we expect from a person who would vote to deny medical treatment to a child born alive after a failed attempt at abortion? Since he has been in office [actually before that] O'bama has demonstrated a complete lack of moral rectitude. Those who continue the support of these policies of O'bama are in danger of this same lack of moral rectitude.
     
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    So you support the murder of "leftover" test tube babies?
     
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    I heard Obama on the radio this evening----I think it was some AFR station we get around here----anyway----commenting on what he signed here is what I remember him saying

    "I have spoken for the majority of Americans when I signed this bill!!!"

    What a joke!!! Obama is a joke!!!

    I tell you what---I am NOT part of the majority he's speaking for!!!!!
     
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    But he is going to use your tax money anyway just as he is in foreign countries to support the murder of the unborn.

    As far as I am concerned an abortionist is worse than Hitler or Stalin or Mao or Pol Pot. At least most of the people murdered by these men had an opportunity to resist. Unborn children can't, though there are ultrasounds showing babies trying to avoid their murderer's knife.
     
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