Babylon being rebuilt -- a sign of the end?

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by BobRyan, Oct 20, 2009.

  1. BobRyan

    BobRyan
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2002
    Messages:
    30,837
    Likes Received:
    4
    For 2300 years Babylon has remained "in ruins" by the command of God.

    Then Saddam Hussein declared his intent to rebuild Babylon -- and then before he could do it - he was destroyed, and all his work in Babylon looted and pillaged.

    A brief review -

    Plans to rebuild:
    1971 Unesco commits to helping Saddam Hussein rebuild Babylon
    1982-1985 – Saddam begins rebuilding Babylon – starting with Nebuchadnezzar’s palace.

    Plans set aside momentarily.
    1990 – first Gulf War – Desert Storm

    Plans obliterated
    2003 – 2nd Gulf War – Enduring Freedom –

    Plans renewed
    Nov 2008 U.N commits to a project for rebuilding Babylon.
    Jan 9, 2009 U.S Commits $700,000 for project to rebuild Babylon

    ======================

    Jeremiah prophesied that Babylon would never be inhabited
    Babylon would be a desolation forever (Jer. 51:62)
    Babylon would not be inhabited (Jer. 50:39).

    1990 - The Persian Gulf War (2 August 1990 – 28 February 1991), known also as the Gulf War, the First Gulf War[12][13], or often as the Second Gulf War [14][15] and by Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein as The Mother of all Battles,[16] or commonly as Desert Storm, for the military response

    2003 – Iraq War





    Saddam compares himself to Nebuchadnezar, the pagan ruler from ancient Babylon.




    (Above. A coin Saddam had minted to that end.)



    Now the UN and the US appear to be ready to step in the gap and pick up where Saddam left off.

    A good idea? Or is it like the reunion work in the EU vs Daniel 2 - another sign that we are nearing the end?

    in Christ,

    Bob
     
  2. billwald

    billwald
    Expand Collapse
    Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2000
    Messages:
    11,414
    Likes Received:
    0
    More likely a sign that the attempt to build will not be successful. If Iraq sells stock in the project, short it. <G>
     
  3. Johnv

    Johnv
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2001
    Messages:
    21,321
    Likes Received:
    0
    The OP is a crock.


    Ancient Babylon is a site of Archeological and historical importance. Saddam Hussein, being a narcissist, decided to "rebuild" the city, but he actually engaged in new construction over buried ruins. After Hussein was removed from power, construction ceased. Today, the site is open to tourists and archeologists. Future construction plans call for some archeological restoration, but mostly preservation.

    I hope to visit there someday.
     
  4. BobRyan

    BobRyan
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2002
    Messages:
    30,837
    Likes Received:
    4
    The Bible texts given in the OP turn out not to be "a crock".

    The Historic events given in the OP turn out not to be "a crock".

    The fact that Hussein placed himself squarely against what Jeremiah prophesied about Babylon -- meant that Hussein's reign was soon to end.

    As it turns out -- that is exactly what happened.

    The prophecy of Jeremiah was that no one (not even shepherds) would dwell in the city ever again. He also prophesied that it would be a place for wild desert animals to dwell, instead of man. It would stand as a witness to the power of God to curse.

    I believe many of those today who suppose they can go in a rebuild the city if they so choose (just as Hussein assumed he could do) are overlooking some inconvenient details found in scripture.

    in Christ,

    Bob
     
  5. BobRyan

    BobRyan
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2002
    Messages:
    30,837
    Likes Received:
    4
    In the past - I have remarked that if an atheist really wanted to demonstrate "there is no god" all they had to do was go and rebuild Tyre, rebuild Sodom or rebuild Babylon.

    Once the Bible predicts something will never again be rebuilt -- you have a condition that is easily tested.

    So far - God's rule is holding.

    in Christ,

    Bob
     
  6. Thinkingstuff

    Thinkingstuff
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2008
    Messages:
    8,169
    Likes Received:
    0
    What I think would be a more interesting one is rebuilding Jericho.
     
  7. BobRyan

    BobRyan
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2002
    Messages:
    30,837
    Likes Received:
    4
    How so?

    Joshua never said it would not be rebuilt.
     
  8. Johnv

    Johnv
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2001
    Messages:
    21,321
    Likes Received:
    0
    No, imo, your take on it is a crock. You seem overly preoccupied with end times theology for some reason, as though beliefs about end times in scripture are doctrinal. They are not. The only doctrinal thing in scripture on future events is that Christ will come again, but what that means is sheer speculation.

    Sorry to be so harsh, by brother, but I'm truly surprised at what I'm seeing from you here.
     
    #8 Johnv, Oct 21, 2009
    Last edited by a moderator: Oct 21, 2009
  9. Thinkingstuff

    Thinkingstuff
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2008
    Messages:
    8,169
    Likes Received:
    0
    No but what makes it more interesting is the curses associated with it.
     
  10. BobRyan

    BobRyan
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2002
    Messages:
    30,837
    Likes Received:
    4
    then at some point -- you will need to take the time to point out something I have said that is in error.

    Until then -- we all can see that "opinions may vary". My interest is in the Word of God.

    in Christ,

    Bob
     
  11. Johnv

    Johnv
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2001
    Messages:
    21,321
    Likes Received:
    0
    The implication that the current state of Babylon is a fulfillment of end times prophecy is an error.
    Mine is too. End times claims such as these have, to date, been proved to be in error, based on misapplication of scripture. I oppose any misapplication of scripture.
     
  12. BobRyan

    BobRyan
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2002
    Messages:
    30,837
    Likes Received:
    4
    I never stated that the Bible predicts that Babylon WOULD be rebuilt as an end time prophecy.

    Rather I stated that the Word of God says it will NOT be rebuilt.

    The logic there is pointing to the fact that previous attempts also ended in disaster. And that God stands behind His Word. It is not something to be ignored.

    Actually -- this particular point as proven to be true - as we saw in the case of Saddam Hussein's efforts to go against what God said would be the future of Babylon.
     

Share This Page

Loading...