Baptists shoudl NOT be involved in Free Masonry!

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  1. Yeshua1

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    As that is a false religion, as they hold to there being salvation by good works, and by devotion to keeping the Masonic rituals and practices!

    And they see all religions as being equally true, as they would have a torah/Bible/Koran as all acceptable religious books!

    And the bible clearly tells us to expose those deeds done in the dark and in private to the light of the Gospel of Christ!

    My father was a shriner, and 33 degree mason, so know the evils and errors in being in that movement!

    Concerned that seems many Baptists, even pastors see them as just a "nice social club!"
     
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    Bob Jones Sr. revival meeting in Miami, 1922:

    http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=6wMtAAAAIBAJ&sjid=n9gFAAAAIBAJ&pg=3900,5314236

     
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    Masonic Service at Capitol Hill Baptist Church, Washington, D.C.:

    Washington Post, May 22, 1914, p. 4


    On its website, Capitol Hill Baptist Church describes its longtime pastor Dr. Ball as having been a "gifted teacher" and the church as having been "always doctrinally conservative":
     
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    All one has to do is read the introduction found in the Masonic Edition of the Bible. I have read and used it to teach on the truth of Free Masonism when I pastored a church in the south where four out of five of my deacons were free Masons.

    Free Masonry claims to be a SUPERIOR light to Christianity and that Jesus Christ was just one of many other equally inspired prophets. In Muslim countries the Koran is used instead of the Bible among Masons. This is all available to any reader in the introduction of the Masonic Bible without having to resort to Albert Pike or others.
     
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    :laugh: Y1, I figured you (or perhaps one other member) would start this thread just after the other one was closed (and it was brought up how meaningless the discussion would be). :BangHead:
     
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    I agree Christians should not be involved.
     
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    Are you a Mason? That is the only reason I can deduct from your response and the response of some others. Anyone who knows the assertions of Masonism as stated in the introduction of their Bible should be alarmed.

    It is no small thing to claim that light of Masonism is a SUPERIOR light to Christianity.

    It is no small thing to assert that Christ is no greater prophet than Mohammed and other prophets of leading religions.

    It is no small thing to have the Koran as an equal revelation from God.

    All these things are clearly stated in the lengthy introduction of the Masonic edition of the Holy Bible. I know because I have not only read every word of that introduction but studied it in its context.

    The only persons that would down play these serious errors are Masons or people who are simply ignorant of the facts.
     
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    Are you not alarmed that many Baptists, even Pastors, find the Lodge to be acceptable?
     
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    I was at one time (I guess I still am....I have not thought about it in years...I wonder if my dues were paid). But that has nothing to do with my response. My response comes from being here through several of these discussions. They all go the same path and end up in speculation. Sooner or later someone will bring up urban legends and hoaxes and the thread will become unchristian slander.

    In the end, no one is better for treads like this. There are reasons that I caution against Freemasonry. But Satanism is not one (secular humanism, however....that's another story).
     
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    No, not really. Churches have too much real work that needs to be done to worry about the Freemasons. Why? Do you loose sleep about it?
     
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    Don't you believe what the Mason's claim in the introduction of their Bible to be what they really believe as an organization?????

    If you came to a church and the Pastor of the church pulled out their articles of faith which said:

    1. We believe Christianianity is a LESSER light than the light of Masonism.

    2. We believe that Christ is no greater or less greater than Mohummed or any other of the great prophets in other world religions

    3. Our churches in Moslem countries use the Koran as our holy book which we believe is no lesser or greater than the Bible.

    Would you think that statement of faith is of no significance, and thus go ahead an join their church??

    Would you regard that church as a cult???

    Realize I am just substituting the word "church" or the Masonic lodge, as I could substitute any other institution as well.
     
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    No, I don't.
     
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    So the Masons, in their own Masonic Edition of the Holy Bible tells lies about themselves. If they tell lies about themselves in the front of a Bible, of all books, then how do you know if they told you the truth at all???? What worth is the words of a liar, especialy an organization that presents lies about itself in their own edition of the Bible???
     
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    My conclusion came before I ever got to “in the introduction of” part of your question. Once you said “don’t you believe what the Mason’s claim” you misrepresented the organization at its core. That’s why I mentioned that these discussions go nowhere. Freemasonry is secular humanism at its finest (secular rather than deistic or theistic as morality and ethics are not actually based on a supreme being but rather on the perception of a supreme being).

    If you genuinely want to spend time learning the truth about the organization that is what you must first understand, it is secular. It uses religion and it uses the framework of religion, but it is atheistic as an organization. I don’t recommend wasting so much time, but I suppose if you feel called to teach against something then you had better learn about what you are teaching against. As it stands you most likely appear clueless to those very familiar with the Freemasons while appealing to those ignorant of the organization. Perhaps that suits your needs…or perhaps not. Either way, it is a distraction from the work that needs to be done.
     
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    My Father and two brothers were Masons. I would put my Fathers understand of Scripture ahead of anyone on the Forum. He told me there was nothing wrong with the Masons. I believe him.

    He quit participating in the Masons after his experience of the Grace of God and joined the Old Regular Baptist Church. They did not approve of secret organizations.
     
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    You are very good at avoiding issues. I will ask you again, does the Official Masonic edition of the Holy Bible with its official introduction designed for the very purpose to introduce the public to fundamentals of Masonism and its history tell outright lies, and lies in all places within the covers of its own official Masonic edition of the Bible. Answer the question please?

    I don't think you have a clue to understanding Masonism! It requires belief in "a god" in ordre to be even accepted as a member and so to say it is atheistic is absolute nonsense.

    Have you ever been to a Masonic conducted funeral? I have! For you or any other Mason to claim it has no fundemental RELIGIOUS belief system is fanatasy or pure deception because anyone who has been to a Masonic funeral can clearly see it has a very clear RELIGIOUS core and it is made very evident in any Masonic funeral.

    I will agree that the common Mason has no clue to the religious core behind Masonism, and you are a very good example of that.
     
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    Any Christian with half a brain should know when you have to take an oath that you will slit your own throat if you reveal the secrets of that organization then you should not be part of something like that.
     
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    :thumbs::thumbs:
     
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    How much did the man with the slit throat reveal to you before he died. I assume you did not slit your throat!
     
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    Are you telling me that you are so biblical deficit in knowledge that you don't understand that taking of oaths, especially oaths that call on you to slit your own throat is not contrary to explicit Biblical commands???

    I had five deacons who were Masons, one a honorary 33rd degree. They too, like your dad saw nothing contradictory between Masonism and the Bible simply because they were truely ignorant of the core essentials of Masonism as such things are never discussed in the lodge on most levels.

    I will ask you the same thing as I asked Jon. Do you believe the Mason's have intentionally lied and deceived the public in their introduction to their own official Masonic Edition of the Holy Bible????
     

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