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Barak Looks After His Own

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by OldRegular, May 29, 2009.

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  1. OldRegular

    OldRegular Well-Known Member

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    Charges Against 'New Black Panthers' Dropped by Obama Justice Dept.

    Three men were accused of trying to threaten voters and block poll and campaign workers by the threat of force -- one even brandishing what prosecutors call a deadly weapon.

    FOXNews.com
    Friday, May 29, 2009

    Charges brought against three members of the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense under the Bush administration have been dropped by the Obama Justice Department, FOX News has learned.

    The charges stemmed from an incident at a Philadelphia polling place on Election Day 2008 when three members of the party were accused of trying to threaten voters and block poll and campaign workers by the threat of force -- one even brandishing what prosecutors call a deadly weapon.

    The three black panthers, Minister King Samir Shabazz, Malik Zulu Shabazz and Jerry Jackson were charged in a civil complaint in the final days of the Bush administration with violating the voter rights act by using coercion, threats and intimidation. Shabazz allegedly held a nightstick or baton that prosecutors said he pointed at people and menacingly tapped it. Prosecutors also say he "supports racially motivated violence against non-blacks and Jews."

    The Obama administration won the case last month, but moved to dismiss the charges on May 15.

    The complaint says the men hurled racial slurs at both blacks and whites.
    A poll watcher who provided an affidavit to prosecutors in the case noted that Bartle Bull, who worked as a civil rights lawyer in the south in the 1960's and is a former campaign manager for Robert Kennedy, said it was the most blatant form of voter intimidation he had ever seen.

    In his affidavit, obtained by FOX News, Bull wrote "I watched the two uniformed men confront voters and attempt to intimidate voters. They were positioned in a location that forced every voter to pass in close proximity to them. The weapon was openly displayed and brandished in plain sight of voters."
    He also said they tried to "interfere with the work of other poll observers ... whom the uniformed men apparently believed did not share their preferences politically," noting that one of the panthers turned toward the white poll observers and said "you are about to be ruled by the black man, cracker."
    A spokesman for the Department of Justice told FOX News, "The Justice Department was successful in obtaining an injunction that prohibits the defendant who brandished a weapon outside a Philadelphia polling place from doing so again. Claims were dismissed against the other defendants based on a careful assessment of the facts and the law. The department is committed to the vigorous prosecution of those who intimidate, threaten or coerce anyone exercising his or her sacred right to vote."


    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2009/05/29/charges-black-panthers-dropped-obama/
     
    #21 OldRegular, May 30, 2009
  2. Magnetic Poles

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    You again speak from ignorance, willful or unwillful. Read my last post. Your repeating yourself is not making a lucid argument. So let ME repeat to YOU. I never said they were all moonies. The moonies set their agenda. I cited my experience working in a newsroom owned by a religion, and how it was spun and censored. It is a reasonable stance, based upon my experience and the nature of religion-owned news organizations to take the Times with a grain of salt. I said it may or may not be true, but I need more than just the Times word on it. They are a mouthpiece for Rev. Moon, that is a fact. And you don't know a thng about me or you'd know your statement about me not trusting anyone critical of Mr. Obama is baloney. You need to stop putting your foot in your mouth and making yourself look foolish.
     
    #22 Magnetic Poles, May 30, 2009
  3. LadyEagle

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    Well, let's get back on topic, shall we? The Moonies are not the topic of this thread. The OP story has been documented in other sources as already posted. The point is, the KKK would have never been allowed to get by with this, but if it is La Raza, some Che Quevara outfit, the Black Panthers, or any other ethnic militant group, they get a free ride.

    We are supposed to be living under the Rule of Law. We are supposed to have equality (even for white people) in this country. Justice is supposed to be Blind and yet, what do we have under the Obama administration? Partiality, bigotry towards whites. He learned well under Rev. Wright.
     
    #23 LadyEagle, May 30, 2009
  4. SeekingTruth

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    MP said in response to donnA:
    If he didn't pretend piety, he could show none. I suspect if others consistently responded as he does, they would be suspended if not banned. Anytime one disagrees with him--look out--the barbs and insults will be coming your way.:tonofbricks:
     
    #24 SeekingTruth, May 30, 2009
  5. Magnetic Poles

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    No, but I will not allow others to misrepresent my positions. Don't like my posts? Got an answer. See that "Ignore" button. Use it.
     
    #25 Magnetic Poles, May 30, 2009
  6. Robert Snow

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    Did these alleged men follow the voters into the voting booth and actually watch them vote? If not, how would they know how a person voted; why would the voter feel intimidated?

    If someone had been at the voting booth with firearms and told me I should vote for McCain, I would have nodded and then voted for Obama.
     
    #26 Robert Snow, May 30, 2009
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    There should be no voter intimidation in America. Period. We are not supposed to behave like a banana republic in this country.
     
    #27 LadyEagle, May 30, 2009
  8. OldRegular

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    Snow even you can't be that dense. One of the men had a club. I suspect all were armed otherwise.
     
    #28 OldRegular, May 30, 2009
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    So you have no problem with armed men (not related to law enforcement) behaving in a menacing manner at a polling place?

    This stuff has been documented, videoed, and shown many times. It is quite obvious it is problematic, and likely unlawful behavior.

    If someone defends this, with all of the proof of what it is, I have to ask if it is even possible for them to be objective.
     
    #29 rbell, May 30, 2009
  10. OldRegular

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    Reading some of the posts by the leftists/democrats one would think they want a banana republic which is where "bho" is leading us. In any event dropping the charges after the conviction is racist.
     
    #30 OldRegular, May 30, 2009
  11. Robert Snow

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    Why don't you answer the questions?
     
    #31 Robert Snow, May 31, 2009
  12. Robert Snow

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    Do you always answer a question with a question?
     
    #32 Robert Snow, May 31, 2009
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    What you have described is not required in order to violate the voter intimidation laws.

    By your definition voter intimidation has never occurred in this country.

    You seem to have very little regard for the people's right to vote.

    I can't help noticing that your comments here are quite silly.

    It is not possible to take your opinions as presented with any level of seriousness.

    Why do you even waste your time with it?
     
    #33 targus, May 31, 2009
  14. OldRegular

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    The question has been answered Snow, more than once. You are either showing your naivete or your true radical leftist colors by even asking such a stupid question.
     
    #34 OldRegular, May 31, 2009
  15. SeekingTruth

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    Thanks for the reminder. I will.
     
    #35 SeekingTruth, May 31, 2009
  16. NiteShift

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    Fine, do not believe Washington Times. You can see the Black Panthers at the polling place here. If this is not voter intimidation, then I don't know what is.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGbKHyGuHU&feature=player_embedded

    The alleged men were there. It doesn't matter if they followed anyone into the booth, threats of physical violence constitute voter intimidation. The Obama Justice Dept. dismissed all charges. If that doesn't bother you then you are too partisan to think straight.
     
    #36 NiteShift, May 31, 2009
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    Troll alert!! Troll alert!!

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    #37 Palatka51, May 31, 2009
  18. OldRegular

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    A spokesman for the Department of Justice told FOX News, "The Justice Department was successful in obtaining an injunction that prohibits the defendant who brandished a weapon outside a Philadelphia polling place from doing so again. Claims were dismissed against the other defendants based on a careful assessment of the facts and the law. The department is committed to the vigorous prosecution of those who intimidate, threaten or coerce anyone exercising his or her sacred right to vote."

    How's that for change you can believe in?
     
    #38 OldRegular, May 31, 2009
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