Bent toward Calvinism

Discussion in 'Calvinism/Arminianism Debate' started by Greektim, Jul 17, 2013.

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Are the forum Moderators and Administrators more lenient w/ Calvinists???

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  1. Greektim

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    Here's a poll question.

    Are the mods and admins biased toward Calvinism (even though not all are Calvies)? Do they give more levity to Calvies than to non-Calvies???

    I will admit, when thinking of rule #8, it was not consistently enforced w/ the James White/James Ach thread.

    Have you noticed a bias?

    PS-poll is private so names will not be shown.

    PPS-I hope I am not breaking a rule with this thread. If so, I did not intend to do so.
     
  2. Tom Bryant

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    I'm a non-Calvinist, but don't think they are biased in how they moderate the threads. I think they are biased towards Calvinism in their own posts, but they ought to be able to say what they think.
     
  3. Greektim

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    Fair enough.

    The accusation of bias was made by another poster. I just created the poll. I am not sure if the accusation was entirely wrong either.
     
  4. DrJamesAch

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    According to Dr. Bob, I hate the God Breathed Scriptures because I am KJVO.
    I got an infraction for speaking negatively about the NIV.

    But a Calvinist can say THE FOLLOWING, and get away with it:

    A Scofield Bible is a corrupted bible, and worthy of burning.

    Post #12
     
  5. saturneptune

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    Good enough for you.
     
  6. Earth Wind and Fire

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    Since when did DHK ever show a bias for or against...he has admitted he isn't Calvinist but that's it.
     
  7. Baptist Believer

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    Given your dislike of the NIV, do you think that the NIV Scofield Bible is worthy of burning?

    Personally, I wish the Scofield Bibles would disappear. They are full of bad theology. I, of course, make the distinction between the scripture and the Scofield's additions.
     
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    Then you are really in the dark about his stance. Dip into the archives.
     
  9. Robert Snow

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    I don't know about all the mods and administrators, but I believe Dr. Bob is definitely biased. Not only toward Calvinism but against those of us who use the KJV exclusively and don't like the modern translations.
     
  10. webdog

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    I guess we will see how biased based on how long the new thread 'Satan's voice in our pulpits' remains open. Let's see how many calvies are quick to condemn edward63 the way they are winman, van, drjamesarch, etc.
     
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    I reported the post...and the entire thread.

    I wonder if you've reported posts by Robert Snow and DrJamesAch in which Calvinsts are called dishonest, anti-Semitic, racist, Buddhist, etc. That's the question.

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  12. Robert Snow

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    I'm sure you will get this thread closed down, after all there is not anyone here who is more of a Calvinist than Dr. Bob.
     
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    When a Calvinist tells an unsaved person that God loves them when they don't really believe that (God only loves the elect), that's dishonest.

    When a person sends me a picture of a pig after making fun of me for being Jewish, the anti-Semitic as well as racist.

    When 3 more of his buddies lash out at something I wrote and call me a Zionist, even after I explained that such is a pejorative term that is offensive to Christian Jews, and they do so for no other reason than to slander me because I gave an opinion about the future of Israel, and none of them used that term toward anyone else on the forum who shared the same views, that's racist.

    Nobody ever said that Calvinists were Buddhists. What was said AND PROVEN is that the origin of the current view of election and predistination as developed by John Calvin was based on Augustines writings, which were based off of Manicheans writings, which were based on Buddhism. Several people disputed that, but nobody REFUTED it.

    The complaint is that Non Cals were treated differently by a wide margin. Furthermore, it was discovered today that someone who supposedly received an infraction for sending me a picture of a pig making fun of me, never actually had an infraction for it which makes me very curious as to why he needed to lie about it, and then why he really wasn't infracted for such a blatantly racist gesture.

    You may not like my views or how I argue for them, but I argue for my views just as vehemently as Calvinists argue theirs. The major difference that has been apparent though is that Calvinists have had much more leeway to make attempts to refute the Non Calvinist position, then we have had to argue against theirs. Non Calvinists get just as angry at being misrepresented as any Calvinist feel that they are. But you can accuse us of "hating the sovereignty of God" and that's perfectly acceptable rhetoric, but let one of us prove that the origins of particular Calvinist doctrines are derived from heretical sources, and instead of specifically refuting the documents, citations, quotes, and verses, "OH that's hateful...we see through your agenda...you hate God" etc...and then the thread gets shut down because somebody is not willing to accept the same criticism that is dished out as us.

    It doesn't bother me very much that others disagree with my views. What bothers me is when they don't attempt or can not PROVE IT, and then put their thumb on the scales to prevent discussions that permit us to prove our assertions.

    Yeah, that's "BENT".
     
  14. The Archangel

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    Certainly a Calvinist believes that God loves even the non-elect. He just loves them differently. I love my own children different than the children of my friends, and I'd assume you do to.

    Nevertheless, you are taking your own thoughts and assumptions about a caricature of Calvinism and applying them universally to everyone who has a reformed soteriology. That's dishonest. And when we tell you about it, you try to convince us that you know better than we ourselves what we believe. That's just small, and quite repugnant.

    And so now all Calvinists are racist because of the actions of one person?

    Oh...you mean like calling all Calvinists "determinists" or giving hearty approval to those that do? Even after we've said time and time again that we are not determinists by your fatalistic definition and that your definition of us as fatalistic was pejorative, defamatory, etc.?

    When something so asinine is stated as "fact" and "proven" trying to refute it only lends credence to it--Pearls before swine; fools and their folly.

    Yes. Non-Cals are treated differently, and it is by a wide margin.

    It isn't that I don't care for your views, I don't. But, non-Calvinist theology in the vein of what is commonly referred to as "Arminianism" is still orthodox. Some of the people I admire most in the faith are not Calvinists and I long for the day when I am as "good" a Christian as they are.

    No, I'll tell you what I don't like...I don't like that you think poking your fingers in the eyes of those who disagree with you is your spiritual gift and your responsibility. Being a burr under the saddle of your opponents and being adversarial to everyone with whom you disagree or everyone who dares disagree with you is not the mark of a believer in Christ (and yet we all demonstrate, from time to time, those things that call into question our faith in Christ). And, for the record, I did not nor am I questioning your salvation.

    You feel you are speaking the truth. But, we are commanded to "speak the truth in love, are we not? It is not loving to make yourself a pebble in your opponent's shoe and it is not loving to view all others as adversaries.

    There are many others on this board (Allan is one) with whom I would greatly enjoy time and fellowship if geography permitted. And, he and I do not share many (if any) similarities in our soteriology. Though I don't mean to speak for him, I view Allan as a partner in the faith, not an adversary. When I pray for our church to grow, and it doesn't, but his does, I rejoice greatly with him and for him.

    Certainly there are times when harsh words are all that are left. Even Jesus had very harsh words for the Pharisees. Paul used harsh words. But, harsh words spoken in love, do not bear the marks of your postings here. You always play the martyr and you are always the pariah. You seem to operate under the idea that it is your mission in life to pull splinters out of the eyes of others regardless of what may be in your own eyes.

    That's what I don't like.

    The Archangel
     
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    Since you are not bent towards Calvinism, why don't you get bent?
     
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    Another lie from the same poster. I am going to put this to rest right now. Here is the infraction I received, date and time.

    Post / Reason Date / Posted By Points / Expires
    A Non Elect Person Saved
    Reason: Insulted Other Member(s) 06-05-2013 05:01 PM by DHK 3 / Expired

    This person is out of control.
     
  17. Dr. Bob

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    He will be dealt with. Notice another "attack-mouth" has "disappeared" and he is only the first.
     
  18. Earth Wind and Fire

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    Please note Bob that I am constantly saying good bye to people (good people) I could have learned from because of these attack mouths types! I don't know exactly what motovates this hatred of the bretheren but it's really gotta stop.

    Gods blessings
     
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    It's your word against DHK's. http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=2012407&postcount=35
     
  20. saturneptune

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    The truth is, when DHK said I had no infractions, it meant they were expired. I did in fact get an infraction over you, which I deserved for two reasons. One, is letting you get me that angry, and two, it was very disrespectful. Your mind is so filled with hatred towards DoGs, etc. you have lost all sense of reasoning out situations.

    Had you come to this board and left the chip on your shoulder at home, you would have gotten much better responses. It was your choice to set the tone that you did.

    I got a hunch you should be packing your bags. I wish you the best at your next forum, and hope you learned something from being here.

    May the Lord bless whatever ministry He leads you to.
     
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