Bidding prayer

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  1. tinytim

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    On another thread, bidding prayer as a form of corporate prayer in worship was mentioned...

    I was just wondering how many here use this form of corporate prayer?

    I have a bidding prayer each Sunday morning...
    I will open us up in prayer with a few comments, and then I'll say, "Let us pray for those that are sick, so we lift these names up before your throne..." Then they will call out the names of the sick that need healing....Then I move on to other categories, such as salvation, provisions, praises, and so forth...and they vocalize their prayer.

    When I was a youth pastor, I called this a popcorn prayer (Anyone can pop when the spirit moves them lol)
    You can even incorporate a part where the people in the congregation say a sentence or two in praise to God.
    When the youth led the service, we would always have a popcorn prayer... And it was something hearing the youth verbalize a collective prayer which is spirit led.
    We have traditional "prayer requests" Sunday evening, and Wednesday evenings, but I open Sunday morning worship (after announcements) with a bidding prayer... it really helps the congregation unite as one to worship God...
    It also cuts down on gossip disquised as prayer requests, and those long rambling prayer requests.
     
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    We use this a lot during our Wednesday night prayer service. Most of the men go to the altar and when one stops praying, another will start. The preacher ends it with his own prayer and an amen.
     
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    I'm glad you explained what you meant by the term "bidding prayer", because here, it is used to refer to a form of set prayer in the Church of England, which comes just before the sermon, and includes prayers for the Queen, the poor, those in danger, and so on, and before the Reformation would have included prayers for the dead! If youy were among the many millions of people around the world who listened to the Service of Nine Lessons and Carols from Kings College, Cambridge, you will have heard that sort of "Bidding Prayer" (without prayers for the dead, thankfully). Here it is:

    BIDDING PRAYERThen, all standing, this bidding prayer is said.
    The Dean
    BELOVED IN CHRIST, be it this Christmas Eve our care
    and delight to prepare ourselves to hear again the message
    of the angels: in heart and mind to go even unto Bethlehem
    and see this thing which is come to pass, and the Babe lying
    in a manger.
    Let us read and mark in Holy Scripture the tale of the loving
    purposes of God from the first days of our disobedience unto
    the glorious Redemption brought us by this Holy Child; and
    let us make this chapel, dedicated to Mary, his most blessed
    Mother, glad with our carols of praise:
    But first let us pray for the needs of his whole world; for
    peace and goodwill over all the earth; for unity and brotherhood
    within the Church he came to build, and especially
    in the dominions of our sovereign lady Queen Elizabeth,
    within this University and City of Cambridge, and in the
    two royal and religious Foundations of King Henry VI here
    and at Eton:
    And because this of all things would rejoice his heart, let us
    at this time remember in his name the poor and the helpless,
    the cold, the hungry and the oppressed; the sick in body
    and in mind and them that mourn; the lonely and the
    unloved; the aged and the little children; and all who know
    not the Lord Jesus.
    Lastly let us remember before God all those who rejoice with
    us, but upon another shore and in a greater light, that multitude
    which no man can number, whose hope was in the
    Word made flesh, and with whom, in this Lord Jesus, we for
    evermore are one.
    These prayers and praises let us humbly offer up to the
    throne of heaven, in the words which Christ himself hath
    taught us: Our Father …

    Every blessing for the New Year,
     
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    Yes, I was aware of the possible confusion, that is why I tried to explain it.

    No, it is nothing like the way the Anglican church does it, as I understand it.

    I have been in a few churches where the prayer requests go on for a good 10-15 minutes on a Sunday morning. While prayer requests are important, we as humans sometimes tend to ramble on.

    And then I'm sure we have all seen the situation where "sister Bertha" gives here request and it goes something like this:

    "We need to pray for sister Delcie, I heard from a very reliable source that her and her husband are having marriage problems. I understand that her husband, Bob is meeting sister Mary for some 'extra marital relations.' And then we need to pray for brother Fred... someone saw his wife hittin the bottle again... and we all know what happens when she gets drunk"

    The bidding prayer, as I described it, takes care of this problem.
    When the congregation is at one in prayer, and everyone has the opportunity to talk to God, they tend not to ramble, or gossip. lol

    I usually open up with prayer, then name the categories and give sufficient time for the people to pray, and then I close in prayer... It usually takes about 5 minutes and when it is done the church seems to be united in worship...

    I think of it this way: I lead the church to the throne, where they as a whole petition God, praise God, and unite to worship him.
    We then continue with the worship service by moving right into the choir's music.

    It is a beautiful thing.

    I was just wondering if anyone else does it like this.
    I have been calling it a corporate prayer until a month ago, when I described what I was doing at our associational pastor's meeting, and other pastors said they have been doing the same thing, and they, along with my area minister, told me it was called a "bidding prayer."
     
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    In the Church of England, the bidding prayer is primarily offered up by the vicar. The people pray silently..then following the bidding prayer there is a procedural prayer with vicar's lines and the people's responses. Most commonly, the bidding prayer is followed by the Lord's Prayer. IN the Prayer Book it comes under the category of Acts of Praise.

    In all my ministry in Baptist Churches, we never had a bidding prayer. The pastoral prayer sometimes included specific prayer needs, but it was generally a time of praising God. We left specific prayer needs to the Wednesday night prayer and Bible study. There we broke up into smaller groups for prayer...the men in their groups and the ladies in theirs.

    Evening services included testimonials. I may have called on a deacon to open the services in prayer, but other than that there was no response on the part of the congregation....that's the way it was back then, folks...I might do things differently to-day. Having come from the Church of England, I guess I like good order in services.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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    Is bidding prayer when the church gets to state special needs just prior to the prayer being prayed? I'm not familiar with these terms being used.
     
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    The way I am using it is the special needs are spoken during the prayer...

    I start the prayer, then usually state something like this:
    Father, we know today that there are those among us that want to lift up a person's name that is sick and in need of healing, and we lift those up now."

    Then I pause... And the people in the congregation does the praying by lifting up these names to God.

    Then after the pause, I will move onto other categories, like the salvation of others, the renewal of others, and special needs that only God can meet. After each category I pause for the congregation to say a name. Or if they want to pray for someone but don't want to say their names, they can say "unnamed"
    I will also say, "Father we also want to praise you, so we lift up praises now." and I pause, and people can lift up one or two sentences of praise.

    The whole church is praying at the same time.

    LeBuick, I think what you are referring to is what we call prayer requests.
    We do have those during Sunday School, Sunday Evening, and Wednesday evening.
     
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    This is the way we begin Altar call during each Sunday service. I like the bidding prayer idea, we may work that into prayer service on Thursdays...
     
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    At our church, the members voice their spoken and unspoken prayer requests, then the men who are kneeling around the altar take turns praying out loud.

    The prayer meeting part of Wednesday night service usually lasts about 30 minutes.
     
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    That sounds beautiful...
    Isn't corporate prayer, the whole body of Christ, coming together, focused on God a beautiful thing??!!
     
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    Yes, it is, Tim. And there is just something special about hearing your needs prayed for out loud by prayer warriors.

    Prayer and praise unites.

    Also if someone is going in for serious tests or has been diagnosed with a serious illness, this is the time they go forward and the elders lay hands on them and pray for them. Sometimes oil is used for anointing.
     

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