Bishop's Letter on Unjustness of Iraq War

Baptist Tape Maker...

The Bible was written down by men.

These men were not infallible all the time.

But when they wrote the Bible, they wrote God's word without error. They were infallible when during these certain situations.

You cannot believe that this is the case according to your above post. Guess you better throw out the Bible.

God bless,

Grant

 

So when you are talking to your brother, you call him a "slobbering old man in diapers" or something equivalent? How about your mom? Your dad? Your kids (if you have them)? I'm doubting it. No, instead of apologizing for a blatent insult, you will keep digging a bigger hole.

He has never claimed to be not a human, and he goes to Confession either daily or weekly (can't remember). I'd say he's pretty aware of his sinfullness.

Judging his heart...when is the last time you talked to him in person again? Oh yeah...never. You keep on judging though.

...please tell me that you are a comedian. I have no idea where you pull this stuff from...honestly. It isn't funny, it is not spiritual, and it is not of Christ. The pope has made no such claim, nor has any right-minded Catholic, so you are doing nothing but to show yourself as a blatent commandment breaker (ya know, the one about not bearing false witness).

I hope you will repent of all this mess.

God bless,

Grant

 

ignorance is bliss...

 

ignorance is bliss... </font>[/QUOTE]Thank you for sharing your sentiments.

God bless,

Grant

 

Whilst I do not believe that the Pope is infallible even ex-cathedra, I think Grant's analogy to the Bible is a good one - if one is claiming that the men who wrote the various books of the Bible were infallible when they did so, it seems logically inconsistent not to allow the possibility of infallibility when inspired by God elsewhere.

Another analogy is one of office - there is nothing necessarily 'more special than other Christians' about the man Karol Wojtyla, just as there is nothing 'more special' than other men about the man George Walker Bush. However, when Bush occupies the office of President, to many Americans he is endued with certain qualities that raise him above the rest of us by virtue of the office he holds . My understanding of Catholics is that they hold that a similar process takes place vis a vis the Pope.

As to the rest of Baptist Tape Makers comments about 'slobbering old man in diapers', I find thses extremely objectionable and unbecoming of a Christian, and I would ask that they be withdrawn forthwith.

Yours in Christ

Matt

 

...........and some people wonder why I don't join a church....?

 

There is zero element of double speak, and since you didn't bother to explain why, I will assume that I am correct.


You would assume that anyways, and I base it on you constantly telling us we are wrong about anything.

Infallible pronouncements, at minimum, will contain somewhere in them that the faithful are required to believe it. Where is the double speak? There has been nothing of the sort attached to the Pope's speaking out against the war.

God bless,

Grant [/QUOTE]

So is he wrong or not ?

 

Ironically, you just made an assumption about me.

And you call it double speak, but you didn't explain that position or give any evidence for why you said it. I have explained it thoroughly and repeatedly, and all YOU have done is tell me that I'm wrong. You have not told me WHY I'm wrong or WHY it's double speak.

Why is that important to the discussion of infallibility, when this is not an infallible matter? Maybe he is right, maybe he is wrong. Either way, I take what he says and reflect upon it. And, I personally do not have a firm opinion on the war, because we don't have an outcome yet to fully explain motives. I support our troops, regardless.

God bless,

Grant

 

Well I can definately say he is wrong. It was a completely justified war.

 

Because the media is completely unbiased, right? Right. Unless you get your information directly from the government, which of course, ALWAYS tells the truth. Oh wait, it doesn't do that either.

Yes, Curtis, I am sure that you have all of the facts and all of the information to know that this war, in all its aspects, and the country and its role to other nations, is completely justified.

Well, I'm glad you are so sure. I guess all of us dummies just haven't gotten with the program yet, right? Heaven forbid.

God bless,

Grant