Black Eye for Somebody!

Discussion in '2007 Archive' started by Bartimaeus, May 11, 2007.

  1. Bartimaeus

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    Please don't shoot me out of the saddle too quick.

    This issue with "Sanctuary" and the Roman Church may heat up a little bit. What can the Fed do and keep control and/or not loose ground in court. The way I see it, they either blast down the doors of the Roman Churches or allow them to shake their fist in the face of the Fed.

    What do you all think?

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  2. DeeJay

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    I say that churchs have to follow the same laws as anybody else. If the Fed gets a court warent they can bust the doors down. Charge those who aided and abeted the criminals.
     
  3. LadyEagle

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    Remember Waco.
     
  4. billwald

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    The theory of the Church as a sanctuary goes back at least 4000 years and civilized nations observe it.
     
  5. Bartimaeus

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    Black Eye

    Yes LadyEagle, Virginia Tech was only the second largest slaughter in our country's recent history.

    "Sanctuary" status for a church is derived (I believe) from the old English common law that recognizes a church (property) as "free" land. Free of governmental jurisdiction as the Roman Church is in Italy. It is in fact an independant country. Italian law has no jurisdiction or power over it. Now....these Roman churches in America are in fact by stipulating "Sanctuary", are saying that they have diplomatic priviledge on their property. What will the Fed say? Remember Noriega? He took refuge inside a Roman church compound and stipulated "Sanctuary". The American army that was chasing him stopped at the gates to the compound and did not go any further at the risk of a possible international incident.

    Next thought......If the Fed allows "Sanctuary" for the Roman church in America, will they allow it for the Baptist Church in America? Are we not ambassadors who have our home in "another country"?

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    I always thought it had it's roots in the cities of refuge in the OT.
     
  7. Bartimaeus

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    You are right tinytim, it does have the roots there because some (and I only mean some) of the old English common law is Bible based. The common law has it's roots in old law from Norway also, I think.

    Bartimaeus

    Edit note: the old English common law was a GOOD system. The writers of the US Const. recognized that and I believe wanted it for us too. We have evolved into a morass.
     
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  8. DeeJay

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    So are you guys advocating sanctuary?

    Are you saying the crimes committed inside of a church should not be prosicuted by the goverment?
     
  9. Salty

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    Bartimaeus,
    There is no such thing as the "Baptist Church". That could make a difference as there is no "Baptist HQ" esp for Ind Bap
     

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