Bob Dylan - still at it

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    I love Bob Dylan. I bought his records. I've seen at least 20 of his concerts. He has a way of writing love songs that no other has. Some of his "protest" songs are so rich with Christian symbolism, and are more subversive than most people know, it's hard not to see his faith in his lyrics.

    I remember him saying he faded out of the spotlight on purpose, because he hated the thought of people thinking he had some insight on the way things should be, just because he made a song that got famous.

    It's hard for me to imagine Bob Dylan as an expert on Mid eastern religious sectarian violence. And there's the drugs and booze. Perhaps he should apologize ? Putting the Croatians on the same level with the KKK member, simply because of the country they were born in is an ignorant generalization.

    Slightly O/T...You wanna be shocked, Gina ? Google Eric Clapton saying "get the coons out"....
     
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    What I think is frightening isn't Dylan's remarks, though they could be classified as "insensitive," I suppose.

    What I find scary as heck is the fact that criminal charges can be brought against someone for saying what they think!
     
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    Like Brother Curtis, I think Bob Dylan is a great song writer. His lyrics carry power and a depth of meaning that can leave you thinking about them long after the song fades. I think he is great.

    I also think he is a believer. I know he has tried to avoid the “born again” label, but that was exactly the testimony he gave when he converted from Judaism to Christianity. Now he wants the connection to his heritage and has re embraced some aspects of Judaism, but I believe he is a good example of a Jew who wants to maintain his family traditions while still trusting Christ for his salvation. The complete nature of his relationship with Christ is between him and God so I will leave it at that.

    But why would anyone expect him to be an expert in eastern European politics and religious wars?

    I think he is a great song writer, but I don’t look to him for religious or political insight. I think he is smarter than most entertainers, but why do we think entertainers are so smart? Just because they are famous?
     
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    NCT, I do expect *certain* entertainers to be smart, ie versed in certain areas, mainly those that do involve politics in their music. Music is very powerful, so it's rather silly to sing about social causes or politics if you haven't a clue what you're talking about.

    I usually try not to know anything about those whose music I enjoy unless they fit into that arena, then I gain an interest in what they do in their personal lives, what causes they are involved in, what they donate to or spend time trying to fix, what their message is, etc..

    And yes, Bro Curtis, I'm very disappointed in what I read on Clapton. I never would have bothered to find out much about him except there is one song in particular that I very much identified with and wanted to know the story behind. The circumstances were oddly similar and it actually added depth to it for me. I think that messed it up. Agh! Not think, know, which stinks because that was one of the most deeply personal songs in my life after a major loss. This is why I normally don't look. Then again, what does one expect? I know that no matter what, I'm always going to run across a human and that's fine. I just usually hope that I don't run across things so repulsive that it ruins the music for me, and that's one of the things that can. And it takes a lot. Streisand took years of trying to ignore her politics. LOL I finally had to throw in the towel in disgust, couldn't hear her sing anymore without her personal opinions hanging in the air after knowing them and it killed it! ...sorry, rambling now.
     
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    Gina, after years of studying Stephen Stills guitar playing, and listening to his music, I jumped at the chance to meet him, when I was invited to a dinner party he was attending.

    He is a sawed off, vulgar, disrespectful, bitter, drunken, little man. It took almost 15 years before I could listen to his music again.
     
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    I have never liked Dylan, the Beatles, or Robert Plant.
     
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    I'm with you here. I don't know of one song that Dylan did and I've never heard of Robert Plant. On the Beatles their was a group that came over here at about the same time called the Dave Clark 5, I thought they would be big, I guess I was wrong.
    If Dylan music has brought so much happiness, he must have be good in a lot of folk's mind.
     
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    I like Dylan as interpreted by Elvis Presley. Elvis did a private recording of Blowin' In The Wind and studio cuts of Tomorrow Is A Long Time and Don't Think Twice It's Alright.

    I read somewhere that Dylan cried for a week after Elvis died.
     
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    The iron hand it ain’t no match for the iron rod
    The strongest wall will crumble and fall to a mighty God
    For all those who have eyes and all those who have ears
    It is only He who can reduce me to tears
    Don’t you cry and don’t you die and don’t you burn
    For like a thief in the night, He’ll replace wrong with right
    When He returns

    Truth is an arrow and the gate is narrow that it passes through
    He unleashed His power at an unknown hour that no one knew
    How long can I listen to the lies of prejudice?
    How long can I stay drunk on fear out in the wilderness?
    Can I cast it aside, all this loyalty and this pride?
    Will I ever learn that there’ll be no peace, that the war won’t cease
    Until He returns?

    Surrender your crown on this blood-stained ground, take off your mask
    He sees your deeds, He knows your needs even before you ask
    How long can you falsify and deny what is real?
    How long can you hate yourself for the weakness you conceal?
    Of every earthly plan that be known to man, He is unconcerned
    He’s got plans of His own to set up His throne
    When He returns

    Copyright © 1979 by Special Rider Music
     
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    Bro. Curtis,the lyrics of that song by Dylan are powerful. Does he do any of those songs in concert these days --from his so-called Christian period?

    B.J. Thomas,though not a song writer, also did an album or two filled with meaningful new (at the time) Christian songs. But I don't think he sings them anymore --maybe he doesn't believe them any longer.
     
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    #13 Bro. Curtis, Dec 5, 2013
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