Bush and Cheney's Iraq lies killed more Americans than Brian Williams' blunder

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  1. Crabtownboy

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    As despicable and self-serving as Williams lie about the helicopter is in the final analysis it did not cost any American soldiers life. This is quite different from the lies Bush, Cheney and others made that cost thousands of lives of American soldiers and the tens of thousands of young Americans whose life was ruined by catastrophic wounds.

     
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    CTB, I know you know better. There is no linkage between Brian Williams lie and the deaths of soldiers in Iraq. Furthermore, a lie is knowingly telling an untruth (Williams). A mistake is saying something based on information that later proves to be wrong (Bush).

    How about I make a similar comparison to the style of the title of your thread?

    Obama's lies got more people kicked off of their health care plans than monarch butterflies eaten by barn swallows last year.
     
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    Then there's all the democrats telling the same lie Bush did, before Bush did.
     
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    I tried to stop myself...really, I did...

    Alright, CTB, do you also accuse Hillary Clinton and Harry Reid of lying? They both voted for the Iraq War. Guess what, they voted based on intelligence gathered by outside sources, not personally gathered by Bush and Cheney. Why it gets your jollies up to accuse only conservative politicians of lying, I'll never know. Remember, though, that the deficiencies in the international intelligence community are, in many ways, a direct result of the policies of Jamie Gorelick, who under Bill Clinton built up walls separating the various foreign intelligence communities from effectively gathering information.
     
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    Do not cast your pearls before swine!!!!
     
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    We also see a pretty hateful statement saying those wounded in battle have had their lives ruined.
     
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    Over a period of time Bush and his advisers knew they were lieing, but by then they were far into the mess that politically they could not starty telling the truth.



    http://www.motherjones.com/bush_war_timeline

    http://www.alternet.org/story/16274/ten_appalling_lies_we_were_told_about_iraq

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/twenty-lies-about-the-iraq-war/5327386
     
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    When you gonna starty addressing some of the points made, so far ?

    Would that mean you would have to starty telling the truth as well ?
     
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    What really happened was the democrats demanded the war for 8 years, then turned against it because they were upset over the 2000 election.

    Crabtownboy had been trying to re-write history for a long time with his whacko websites & his partisan myopia.

    Everyone knows the democrats wanted the war, continued the war, and never stopped funding the war, even when they could have.
     
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    Off topic as usual. This thread is about the lies of the Bush administration.

    We all know they lied and their lies cost thousands of lives and tens of thousands of lives ruined. Some will simply not admit that.
     
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    Off topic as usual. This thread is about the lies of the Bush administration.

    We all know they lied and their lies cost thousands of lives and tens of thousands of lives ruined, close to 200,000. Some will simply not admit that.


     
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    Nope. This thread blames the entire war on Bush. Refuting that is not off-topic.

    Even worse, some will out and out lie about out for purely political reasons.
     
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    Why do you all insist on feeding the troll?
     
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    Who was President? Who proposed we go to war. Who gave the command for war to begin? Bush.

    Truman, among other things was honest. The sign on his desk said, "The buck stops here".

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    Yep, I agree Bush was good at that also as was Cheney.
     
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    You make it sound as though Bush signed an executive order for our soldiers to go into Iraq. He at least sought Congressional approval, meaning if Bush is a liar then all of Congress is a liar too.
     
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    They all serve the same banking and corporate interests. Who always benefit from war.

    Washington's wars have nothing to do with protecting our freedom as you might have noticed our freedoms are disappearing faster with each new war and these wars have nothing to do with liberating the oppressed as you might have noticed the oppressed we "liberate" usually end up dead during the resultant civil wars our invasions and occupations cause.

    But it makes for good PR and sells wars better than saying "we want to destroy their infrastructure and control their resources".

    As Brzezinski says in his book "The Grand Chessboard", "democracy is inimical to imperial pursuits" in other words it takes big lies to start wars of conquest in a democracy.

    And that's what Washington's wars are after you strip away all the fear mongering and red white and blue propaganda. Wars of conquest.

    It doesn't get any more un-American than that.
     
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    Bush.
    The democrats did for for 8 years, then Bush, along with his democrat congress. How many times do I have to answer these things for you ?
    Congress declares war. A president does not just command that troops go to war.
    Tree.
     
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    No, Bush lied to Congress. Go listen to his speech justifying the invasion.



     
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    Some things never change Crabby,

    Water is wet, the sky is blue, and politicians lie but getting one to admit their favored politician tells lies for the benefit of his/her cronies is next to impossible.

    We all know it to be true but admitting it would be like admitting we're dumb enough to believe their lies over and over again.

    Take you for example. You and I both know Bush lied about many things but would you be willing to admit Obama lied about many things as well?
     
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