California Judge Deserves Judgment

So you think he shouldn't have appointed pro life judges? I don't quite get that Ken.

What are you doing? "Campaigning" for someone who doesn't bother to show up in teh polls? Voting for someone who is not seroius enough to mount a real campaign? That is doing "something" I suppose ... It just isn't doing anything worthwhile in this presidential election year.

ACtually that is Peroutka's terminology I think ... He is the one who wrote the article about "Stop wasting your vote?" Don't you even know your own candidate well enough to know that? As many times as you have flipped back and forth, it is not surprising that you don't know what he believes and what he says ... But we are all on a learning curve of some type.

 

Is it really that surprising? Is killing a child in the womb really that different then killing it almost out of the womb? Nothing the 9th "Circus" does surprises me, sadly.

 

Roy Moore was a truly Godly judge. Unfortunately, Bush supported his ouster, and rewarded the man who ousted him (Attorney General Pryor) with a high level judgeship. No surprise to me, but I am amazed at how much the Bush devotees are eager to overlook.

 

And, sadly, if enough of us do that, Kerry will win.

 

I didn't see any evidence that Bush supported his ouster. Pryor did what he was required to do. In that case, he no choice unless he was going to disobey God.

We live in a nation of laws. We can complain about the system, but it is the laws that we live by. In our system of laws, the judges had the authority. I think the decision was bad. I think in the long run it is irrelevant. Having the 10 commandments on teh lawn didn't make anyone a believer and didn't stop crime. But the law is still the law. You trumpet the constitution and then complain when it works. Seems a little out of whack to me.

 

No loss. Bush has remained practically silent for four years while 3800 babies died per day. He has moved our country further leftward in 4 years than Clinton did in 8. Kerry would not be worse than Bush has been. A vote for Peroutka would be a vote to change things for the better.

 

If that were so, he would have followed the law (which in his case did not violate scripture) instead of ignoring it, which is why he was removed. I have no doubt that he was a Godly man, but he was not a very Godly judge.

 

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How does a man who doesn't get elected change things for the better? You keep trying to make that argument, but have you actually thought about it? A man who goes home the day after the election has no power to change things for the better.

 

We have already discussed this, by continuing to vote Republican, the Republican Party learns once again that they have the conservative vote no matter what they do, and they will continue to move to the left.

If Peroutka garners a significant percentage of the votes it will show that there are votes available that the Republican Party will not get until they change their ways. This will demonstrate to the Republican Party that voters will leave the party if they are not represented by that party.

The working assumption by the Republican Party has always been that conservatives have no where else to turn, and that they are pragmatic enough to not "waste their vote" by voting for a third party. Our objective in voting for Peroutka is to show that assumption to be false.

Have you actually thought and prayed about this?

 

The basic fact of American politics is that whoever can move to the middle, and keep his true believers on the extreme (right or left) happy, wins.

Bush has learned that no matter what he does, the right will continue to support him. So, they have, in essence told him to move as far left as he needs to get a majority.

That is what he will do. Why does this suprise anyone?

 

Yep. And that's why "the middle" continues to move leftward. What is called by many "moderate" today is far to the oeft of JFK. Christians are happy to facilitate the leftward slide into a socialistic godless democracy. What a shame.

 

This isn't the question. The question is, "How does a man who doesn't get elected change things?" The answer is, He can't. You cannot change things unless you are elected or willing to get involved in the process. If Peroutka got involved in Republican party and took his numbers and his voice, he could have an influence that he likely will not have doing it this way.

Your objective should be the future of the country, IMO. I am much more concerned about judicial appointments and conservative ideals than I am about sending a message that the Repubs will never hear, as it stands now. As I have said, if Peroutka was a serious candidate for president, then there would be something to think about. As it stands now, there is nothing to think about in this. You don't set out with the intention of failing, in my book at least.

I have thought a lot about it. And the more I think about it, the less I understand your position. But that's fine. I hope that Peroutka does better than he is currently doing. You talk about third parties getting mentions after the conventions. Nader is getting it now. Why isn't Peroutka? I heard Nader on Mitch Albom show yesterday here in Detroit. Why isn't Peroutka getting on those shows? Why isn't he out 18 hours a day campaigning? That is what it is going to take for him. As for prayer, yes ...

 

I think running for president is being involved in the process.

Also, you are wrong that the only way to change things is to get elected. A very strong case can be made that the Socialist Party and its companion parties were the most successful parties in these United States in the 20th century. A large part of their platform was adopted by the Demopublicans and enacted into law.

 

Just because you don't hear it, doesn't mean that it isn't happening, I found out that C-SPAN will be at the CP convention this month, which will help with the campaign. I have no idea who Mitch Albom is, but I do know that Peroutka was on WNIS Radio 790 AM with Tony Macrini in Norfolk on June 2nd, American Family Radio nationwide with Tim Wildman on June 3rd and WATR Radio: Talk of the Town with Ed Flynn in Waterbury, Connecticut on June 4th. He has been on radio and television every month.

Nader has yet to achieve ballot access in a single state, Pertouka is expected to have ballot access in at least 40 states.

I am sure that Peroutka is out 18 hours a day campaigning, he has been traveling all over the country for the last five months. He was campaigning in at least 10 different states in the month of May alone. The only way for Peroutka to get known is for conservatives like you and I to help spread the word.

 

I am glad to hear all those things, NP. I hope he is carrying through. Albom is a big local show, afternoon drive, probably the biggest show in the market. He is the author of Tuesday's with Morrie and the Five People You Meet in Heaven. I can't stand to listen to him much. He is pretty liberal. But he does have some national syndication for part of it, I think. My point was only using that as an example of a third party candidate getting some exposure that I am not seeing for Peroutka.