Calvinist assertions evaluated

Your side is not immune. It has been said all infants are "elect", therefore the same question can be turned back on you.

 

it would be wrong as all died in adam

 

Infants are unintentional sinners. Unintentional sin needs atonement. The atonement is Jesus Christ. God chooses & extends Grace unto these infants who die.

 

While I certainly think this is true it is going too far to make the statement as absolute as you have. There is simply not clear scripture to back it up.

 

Van, yes I agree based on the teachings as to why we are lost as humans and what the prescribed method is to become saved excludes babies, however I am also aware that there is enough scripture to hold to the claim that babies are some how covered using systematic theology to come to the conclusion.
The big problem I have is when someone makes the statement in a dogmatic way. Then we have the problem with age and it carries so far that we would be better off not telling people about the gospel. I know people that teach that children are covered way up into the teen years and further which I totally disagree with. In fact I don't even include children, babies yes, children no, but neither do I put an exact cut off age on it. There is just not enough information. So I agree with you from a scriptural standpoint, but I also think there is room to at least hold that babies are covered somehow apart from faith.

 

I've just tried a Google search for "The Reformed Doctrine of Predestination", and got 128,00 results. I wonder which one you meant.

Perhaps you mean a site about the book, "The Reformed Doctrine of Predestination" by Loraine Boettner?

 

Calvinists simply tell the biblical truth. They put God before man.

 

You are so humble. :laugh::laugh::laugh:

 

At least in and according to their understanding.
The Arminians and Non-Cals place God before man as well. Your descriptor precludes any possibility any another view does this, which in fact is nonfactual but an assumption.

 

False assumption and dichotomy. Non cals do the same thing. Calvinism is not immutable.

 

Another day and another verse you totally misunderstand and pervert....not a surprise though....as you like to say..keep posting Van..hope springs eternal, eventually you might get a verse correct...by mistake.

 

O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out! For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor? Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again? For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.

 

Thanks for that, Van. Your earlier post said nothing about a book, or Boettner, so assumed it was a quote from a website. I know it's easy to say with hindsight, but it would have been clearer if, instead of:

This quote comes from "11. Infant Salvation" on the Reformed Doctrine of Predestination site.
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you had written something like:

This quote comes from "11. Infant Salvation" from Boettner's book, The Reformed Doctrine of Predestination which can be read online here.
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Thanks again for your explanation.

 

...yet why don't you apply this same principle to man being a free moral agent? Of how God reacts to prayer? Or how God deals with His creation in and outside of time? Or kenosis?

 

So, who decides when to send the Lord back if God doesn't even know?

Also, seeing as how you insist that THE BIBLE SAYS that "He chose not to know everyting imaginable..." could you please offer a verse reference for that?