Featured Calvin's Amillennialism and Infant Baptism

This very short video sums up my answer to this post.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m30mG3JKzA8

 

To help you in your quest:
http://www.oldtruth.com/calvinism/calvinism.html

http://www.oldtruth.com/calvinism/balanced.html

 

Oh brother, you don't know when to give up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JJ700tVT_0

That's what I think of Calvinism.

 

Check this out Winman:
This is from the arminian baptist.....I found these points interesting-

Why would the congregation ...remain clueless two years into the mans ministry???They must really know their bibles!

 

You are correct, must believers do not really know their Bible or they would reject Calvinism immediately.

I reject Calvinism, but I ALWAYS show scripture that refutes it. Truth is, I have only shown a few scriptures that refute Calvinism, I could literally show thousands, but that would be overkill. If you will not listen to 20 or 30 verses that clearly refute Calvinism, then you certainly aren't going to listen to hundreds or thousands.

You would not even understand how many of the scriptures I show you refutes Calvinism, because your mind is blinded by false doctrine. For instance, I will show you scripture that Calvinists quote every day to attempt to prove Calvinism, but in reality they clearly refute it.

Rom 3:12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

Calvinsts quote this scripture all the time to attempt to prove Total Inability, but it refutes your doctrine.

Notice the words, "gone out". You can not go out of something unless you are originally in something. For instance, you can not go out of your house unless you are first IN your house. But, because your mind is blinded by false doctrine, you completely overlook these words.

Notice next the word "become". Here Paul is repeating Psalm 14 where it says we have "become filthy". This shows a process, that we were first clean and then became filthy or unprofitable.

If you were born rich, would you tell someone you "became" rich? No.

If you were born poor, but worked diligently and acquired wealth, would you tell anyone you "became" rich? YES.

So, the scripture you quote to prove your doctrine actually in truth refutes your doctrine, but your mind has been conditioned to overlook this.

Isa 64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

Again, scripture quoted by Calvinists to attempt to prove Total Inability which actually refutes it.

No piece of clothing starts out as a filthy rag, all clothing is clean and without tears to begin with. You overlook this.

It is spring, have you noticed the new leaves on the trees? What color are they?

All leaves begin green and alive, there is no such thing as a new leaf being faded and dead.

This scripture proves we are born alive and upright. We start out like new clothing that is clean and not torn, we start out like a fresh new green leaf, but our sins soil and rip our clothing, and cause our leaf to wither, turn brown and die.

But you overlook all this because you have been blinded by false doctrine. You have been shown, so now you have no excuse.

 

Winman
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Winman,
you missed this verse as usual because you are tossed to and fro....

it is speaking about how men lack the righteousness of God...the "rag" is in reality ...the menstrual rag of a woman on her monthly cycle...literally:thumbs: it is not about how we start fresh:wavey:

Your agenda again betrays you as you never studied this verse:thumbs:

 

Well, as you drive your truck around, you look at all the fresh green leaves on the trees.

There is none so blind as those who refuse to see.

 

This is speaking of going on to judgement;

Unless God has mercy, we perish;
New International Version (©2011)
All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away.

New Living Translation (©2007)
We are all infected and impure with sin. When we display our righteous deeds, they are nothing but filthy rags. Like autumn leaves, we wither and fall, and our sins sweep us away like the wind.

English Standard Version (©2001)
We have all become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous deeds are like a polluted garment. We all fade like a leaf, and our iniquities, like the wind, take us away.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
For all of us have become like one who is unclean, And all our righteous deeds are like a filthy garment; And all of us wither like a leaf, And our iniquities, like the wind, take us away.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009)
All of us have become like something unclean, and all our righteous acts are like a polluted garment; all of us wither like a leaf, and our iniquities carry us away like the wind.

International Standard Version (©2012)
All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like a filthy rag; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind, our iniquities sweep us away.

NET Bible (©2006)
We are all like one who is unclean, all our so-called righteous acts are like a menstrual rag in your sight. We all wither like a leaf; our sins carry us away like the wind.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
We've all become unclean, and all our righteous acts are like permanently stained rags. All of us shrivel like leaves, and our sins carry us away like the wind.

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

American King James Version
But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

American Standard Version
For we are all become as one that is unclean, and all our righteousnesses are as a polluted garment: and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, take us away.

Douay-Rheims Bible
And we are all become as one unclean, and all our justices as the rag of a menstruous woman: and we have all fallen as a leaf, and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

Darby Bible Translation
And we are all become as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all fade as a leaf, and our iniquities, like the wind, have carried us away;

English Revised Version
For we are all become as one that is unclean, and all our righteousnesses are as a polluted garment: and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, take us away.

Webster's Bible Translation
But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

World English Bible
For we have all become as one who is unclean, and all our righteousness is as a polluted garment: and we all fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, take us away.

Young's Literal Translation
And we are as unclean -- all of us, And as a garment passing away, all our righteous acts; And we fade as a leaf -- all of us. And our iniquities as wind do take us away.
Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary

64:6-12 The people of God, in affliction, confess and bewail their sins, owning themselves unworthy of his mercy. Sin is that abominable thing which the Lord hates. Our deeds, whatever they may seem to be, if we think to merit by them at God's hand, are as rags, and will not cover us; filthy rags, and will but defile us. Even our few good works in which there is real excellence, as fruits of the Spirit, are so defective and defiled as done by us, that they need to be washed in the fountain open for sin and uncleanness. It bodes ill when prayer is kept back. To pray, is by faith to take hold of the promises the Lord has made of his good-will to us, and to plead them; to take hold of him, earnestly begging him not to leave us; or soliciting his return. They brought their troubles upon themselves by their own folly. Sinners are blasted, and then carried away, by the wind of their own iniquity; it withers and then ruins them. When they made themselves as an unclean thing, no wonder that God loathed them.


Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary

6. unclean thing—legally unclean, as a leper. True of Israel, everywhere now cut off by unbelief and by God's judgments from the congregation of the saints.

righteousness—plural, "uncleanness" extended to every particular act of theirs, even to their prayers and praises. True of the best doings of the unregenerate (Php 3:6-8; Tit 1:15; Heb 11:6).

filthy rags—literally, a "menstruous rag" (Le 15:33; 20:18; La 1:17).

fade … leaf—(Ps 90:5, 6).

 

Well, you just look real close at all those leaves as you drive around this week, and see what God tells you. :thumbsup:

 

I will be driving through Minnesota,North Dakota,and into Montana, tommorow..so i might not see many leaves,lol.....alot of farms,cows, and then some mountains,and valleys...maybe pine trees...lol

Do not fear Winman....

 

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Oh, I think you already know what you will see.

 

Oh, by the way, I used to drive trucks when I was a young man, not the big rigs like you, but cutaways. 5 speed if I remember correctly. I used to drive all over Florida, but I would always get home at night. I did that for a year or two. I enjoyed it, but my back and neck did not.

 

I have under achieved in life,and to an extent have reaped what I sowed.Thankfully God in His providence gives many opportunities for gospel discussion with all manner of persons that come into my path.
I have had some back issues,requiring steroid injections in order to be able to continue.I believe the prayers of several in My Home church have sustained me.
The back and forth on BB....helps keep me sharp in dealing with the unsaved,and cultists that I meet daily ,and God has given several great openings that I would not have had with my other jobs.

 

There is absolutely nothing wrong with being a truck driver. Truck drivers drive the American economy, it is truck drivers that accounts for America's great efficiency in delivering products. It is amazing actually. The reason communist countries fail is because they do not know how to get food from the farm to the grocery store before it rots.

So, pride is not good, but you are performing a VITAL service. There is nothing to be ashamed in any honest work.

Thank God for truck drivers! :thumbsup:

 

Here is exactly where he got his degree.

http://almedauniversity.org/credentialing/phd-programs.html

Notice the rigorous academic standards.

 

Where did John Calvin's Doctorate in Theology come from?

 

Though education in his day was different than ours:

Collège de Montaigu (philosophy)
University of Orléans (law)
University of Bourges (law and classics)

These were only among the top schools in Europe of the time.