Can a Dead Body Sin?

All the drug dealers standing on the street corner selling drugs to children, could all be saved and the children of the Living God, if the doctrine of some is true.

Don't mean any harm, but that is the case of how I read the doctrine of many. I pray that I am misunderstanding.

Bbob,

 

Peace brother! YBIC :thumbs:

 

We have similar testimonies. I see God keeping us saved through chastisment. You see yourself keeping you saved through obedience.

Just two different points of view. One by grace, another by self perserverance.

God bless!

 

I know at this point in time you cannot lay hold of this, but you are a fine example of OSAS.

Praise Jesus! :godisgood:

 

May I ask you a question? You said that before you fell into all of this sin you was born-again? Can you tell me if you still had the Spirit of Christ while you was in this condition?

If you answer yes, that you still had the Spirit of Christ, then how is it you believe a child of God with the Spirit of Christ goes to hell? I've never seen any such scripture.

If you answer no, you did not have the Spirit of Christ, then were you born-again twice? Knowing that having the Spirit of Christ comes only through regeneration.

Will do! raying: raying: raying:

 

What is incoherent about the question?

Was you regenerated (born again) having the witness of the Holy Spirit indwellment, or was you just playing religion (you thought obeying the scriptures was a born again relationship) ?

I then asked; Can you tell me if you still had the Spirit of Christ while you was in this condition?

You answered;

Is this a dodge? Did you have the Spirit indwellement prior to your sin years or not?

:jesus:

 

Just a bump! :wavey:

I know how busy we can all get. Sometimes I can't get back to the computer for days or even weeks. And sometimes I only have enough time for short responses or response to only one thread.

Take your time, I just didn't want this thread getting dropped off.

God bless! :thumbs:

 

I thought I would re-post this.

 

Thanks...............

BBob,

 

Did you have the Spirit of Christ (born-again) for several years before falling prey?

Did you have the Spirit of Christ while living a life filled with sin?

Take your time and think it through, I know this is challenging your deeply held view of Romans 8. You always stress the logical end of one's view.

God Bless!

 

Maybe I should be more specific with my inquirey. When you say "had a relationship with the Lord" do you mean Spirit had given birth to your spirit, born again(Jo 3), received His seed(1Jo 3:9), received His seal of ownership(Eph 4:30), received His unction(1Jo 2:20)?

Did you have the Spirit of Christ while living this part of your life filled with sin?

Again, take your time, I know how it gets busy posting in several threads at once. This is just a bump until you find the time to respond. I believe an examination of your life here will shed much light on your understanding of scripture.

God Bless! :jesus:

 

Interesting........... raying:

 

Can a Dead Body Sin

Brother Bob: I like the way you explain this. I once heard someone say that where a man puts his eyes his feet are sure to follow and in light of a verse in the Word that says, we are to set our eyes on things above and not things on earth. I can try as hard as I like to clean myself up; but, it won't happen until I ask Him to do it for me, and then get out of the way and allow Him to do it for me. Change comes from the work of the Holy Spirit, inside each of us; but, we have to want the HS to do it also. There are many carnal Christians, who do not allow this, and they wind up being chastized by Him. He wants fellowship with us, and when we sin, we break fellowship with Him. When Christ was on the cross and asked God, referring to Him as My God, He asked, "why hath though forsaken me". I feel that was the very moment that He took our sins upon Himself, and God, had to turn from Him at that very moment. Now, we are covered in His blood and when God sees us, He sees His Son.

There are so many people today that feel they must keep the Mosaic Law or follow the ten commandments. Man doesn't know what is good and what is bad, He does; and, to work through us, we have to allow Him to clean us up. Too many people think they have to clean themselves up before asking Him to come into their life; but, they should come as they are, and ask Him to come clean up the mess and He will.
A pastor I know once referred to a Christian sinning as running errands for a corpse. As the flesh is dead and dying, it will rot one day. Our soul is eternal and eternity is forever, much longer than this life we have on earth in this corruptible body. So; what we need to ask ourselves I think, is are we running errands for a corpse or are we being vessels through which He can work through.
YSIC
Joyce

 

Every time I see this thread I want to ask the question, can a table sin? How about a chair? Can a house sin? How about your shirt?

 

No harm in asking questions, this is how we come to logical conclusions about one's views (and hopefully if they see an illogical conclusion they will adjusted their views accordingly) but some simply get to a point where they cannot answer without compromising their view so rather than let truth correct as necessary, some simply go into denial and refuse to engage any further.

The answers to your questions are all "no".

God Bless! :wavey: